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    Quote Originally Posted by tj!2k4
    I'd prefer as little reliance on external apps as possible.. for instance, the reason I will never use RoadRunner is because it has to fire up WinAmp and have it run hidden.

    Also, ease of configuration is another big one..

    BTW folks, let Sama know what type of Media Manager you're interested in for this frontend: Browse by File or by ID3?
    minimize roadrunner and you will see winamp behind it. Close the additional windows like eq and playlist and minimize it to. Maximize roadrunner again and exit or restart the system. Next time winamp will start as last position you left.

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    Muchisimas Gracias tj!

    Following lots of thoughts, here's an update on the plan so far:

    To completley decouple the presentation from the functionality, and working on local network ports to get the two to communicate. it will be an asynchronous event model which is slightly harder to code, but but it does mean that ANY presentation technology can be used (flash/web page/custom code).

    The backend will be like a webservice that exposes it's functionality, and uses plugins to wrap other api's, such as speech/telephony/multimedia. The plugins will be installable by simple installers (every plugin will register it self when it installs).

    There will be heavy emphasis on the UI being driver friendly and doing things with minimal interaction. I'm trying to think of scenarios like: "this song should be in another playlist so I want to move it, and the system should give me the most probable targets"

    The framework will be generic enough to be compiled to any platform supporting .net, but the plugins will be heavily wWndows biased, since Microsoft include a lot of API's like speech, telephony etc. perhaps if there is interest, the developer guide will allow others to write specific plugins to support other platforms. but this is not planned out of the box.

    All configuration will be wizard based, and a generic configuration framework will be used throughout the app for consistancy. When a plugin installes, it will use this framework to allow the user to configure it.

    Any comments or suggestions would be much appreciated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by redbullah
    What about an ibus controlled frontend
    there are four buttons located on your steerwheel
    <, >, +, -
    and one more additional "ibus menu button" which allows you enable and disable ibus menu instantly.
    if ibus menu disabled you can use these steerwheel buttons for prev, next, vol+ and vol-
    and if you enable ibus menu
    you can navigate between the functions and do anything
    < is scroll up between the options, > is scroll down, + select the option, - go one level up. Tft screens have an osd menu system like this. Even you can type with + and - (like old arcade games ranking list), > accept, < cancel.
    One more thing. You can support this ibus menu with a voice guide system that can read the options and say what happened. You even don't have to look at the screen as you are navigating.
    it would be great. Tell me if i overheat you sama.

    those are all good comments. To wrap them up, I think what you're basically suggesting is:

    A contextual control system to operate the system from a limited number of buttons, with visual/audible feedback.

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    Quote Originally Posted by redbullah
    minimize roadrunner and you will see winamp behind it. Close the additional windows like eq and playlist and minimize it to. Maximize roadrunner again and exit or restart the system. Next time winamp will start as last position you left.
    My point exactly. I consider that ugly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tj!2k4
    My point exactly. I consider that ugly.
    i agree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sama
    those are all good comments. To wrap them up, I think what you're basically suggesting is:

    A contextual control system to operate the system from a limited number of buttons, with visual/audible feedback.
    Yes exactly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by daristiz
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    MULTIPLATFORM!! or at leats that it can run in linux
    I second that!
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    Seeing all these front-ends using WMP and Winamp for video playback, how come no one uses VLC (www.videolan.org)? It supports Win/Mac/Linux and codec are not required.
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    that's a really interesting link dude. I'm looking into what can be done with it.

    if I can use this as a single video/music player, then this project will probably compile under mono as well.

    stay tuned!

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    Quote Originally Posted by chanman View Post
    Seeing all these front-ends using WMP and Winamp for video playback, how come no one uses VLC (www.videolan.org)? It supports Win/Mac/Linux and codec are not required.
    My thought as well. VLC and iTunes (insert boos and hisses from peanut gallery) are, for my day to day use, the best media players.

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