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    Exactely! GPS (and every other app that is running fullscreen) is hard to handle while you're in the car. But also, every app can be handled easier if you use the PowerMate or you do something like Cris did.

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    Let’s face it. There are only two ways of managing applications in a Carputer. One is to have all of them embedded on a frontend, the other is to use a tool such as WMI.
    I prefer the WMI solution, well, exactly because is frontend independent. I like to be able to switch between applications fast and without complications like remember where to press or having to look at the screen or having to go thru the frontend to jump from the gps to the browser or the compass or winc or netstumbler...
    I appreciate the effort the frontend developers put on integrating picture viewers, browsers, sync managers, etc.. into their media players, but I feel that it would be a lot easier to develop and manage, the apps would be faster and would be a lot more customizable environment if we had different apps for each job, communicating where needed using something like frodocomm, and aggregated using an application manager like WMI.
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    i think a good mix of both will yield the best result. Some things, although totaly doable with WMI are easier just clicking the button on the frontend, but this varries with what options people have for imput devices. And other things, like navigateing a fullscreen GPS app lends itself to having all its options put into MWI. Taskswitching is a item i dont believe needs to be in a frontend, or application launching if its not embeded.

    I really like mwi (can we comeup with a new name for this), and after im done building out the menus for various things, ill start on some graphics, although the default one matches my skin pretty good except the icon colors.
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    i think sendkeys is sending the same key twice for one menu click, can someone confirm?

    also, i dont think the RETURN command is the same thing as ENTER on the keyboard, since there dosent seem to be an ENTER command. I think i had this problem before with phoco keymaps.
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    If you're sending keys to control a menu, you usually use ALT key combinations. In that case use the following notation:
    Alt, {menu key}, -Alt

    RETURN and ENTER deliver the same code, so they're interchangeable.
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    when i say menu, i mean the drop down menu in mwi.
    the ENTER command dosent seem to do anything, but RETURN does but.. it sends the key twice.
    IG can be completely controlled with the enterkey and arrow keys, hitting enter once brings up the main menu screen, twice takes you to the destination screen.

    Im working on two configurations for IG, one that sends copy data to RoadRunner and uses RR commands (this ver works fine) and another ver that for use in IG when its running standalone, only about half the commands work in this ver because the return command is being sent too many times.

    The reason for the two version is for people who use IG standalone and not embeded.

    ive had similar problems with the enter command in phoco, i was trying to control Windows Media Center 2005, which uses the enter command through the interface, but it never would work MCEwould just ignore the command if it was sent from phoco, so to work around it, i made an autoIT script that sent the enter command and told phoco to run that app. In notepad the command works fine.
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    ENTER doesn't exist at all, so it's no wonder you get no response.

    I've checked the RETURN behaviour and found a bug where the keys DOWN state was sent but not the UP state. I've corrected this, so you can give it another try.

    Yes, technically spoken, each key is sent twice. Once with the DOWN state and once with UP state. This is the standard behaviour of windows and shoudn't have any side effects.
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    ok cool, that explains the problems ive been having with that. You should check it in phoco too, ive have similar problems with that key too.

    Thanks
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    Sir, yes sir.

    Meanwhile, as a workaround you can use the sequence RETURN,-RETURN to compensate that "bug" (which is no real bug than more a undocumented feature that doesn't make much sense )
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    cool, that works, ill wait till the update though so i dont have to change all of them back.

    also,not sure if this is just on my machine but the memory usage seems to be pretty high, 38megs. Dosent matter much to me as i have 2GB of ram on my laptop and 1GB in my carputer but others with more meager amounts may cry foul.
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