Thread: CDMA Phones

I was able to do this once with an N400. I got the two usb cables and plugged in the samsung plug it into "camera" port underneath. I had free internet access for a few months. I used to have unlimited PCS which is what worked. There's also a dialer available that you need, made by Sprint.

Originally Posted by Riff

Yes, the PCS connectivity kit is installed. Is that bad? It isn't running while PhoneControl is running. It does not report incoming calls at all. Is the LG phone control much better? I may switch to that phone if it will let me use this software

Thanks again

No, I was just curious. As far as I know, it doesn't work without the kit.
Bryan is the one who's using the LG and I think he said, except the SMS it's working well. But I'm still waiting for his final report.
You may drop him a mail.

Originally Posted by zorro

No, I was just curious. As far as I know, it doesn't work without the kit.
Bryan is the one who's using the LG and I think he said, except the SMS it's working well. But I'm still waiting for his final report.
You may drop him a mail.

Hey Zorro and fellow PhoneControl users,

How is it that Zorro never seems to age??

Anyone can correct me on what I'm writing here... I'm not a programmer, but here's what I think I know:

Firstly, I should make sure that everyone understands that PhoneControl works exceptionally well as a phonebook and dialer program for the VX4500. I drive on the freeways in LA, and this serves a VERY valuable purpose, since everyone here drives like they're CRAZY!!!. However.. headset features, phonebook download, SMS, auto-answer (although I really need to test this), and caller ID are not working.

SMS messaging and automatic phonebook download features MAY BE POSSIBLE if someone with programming experience who also has a CDMA phone could investigate the BitPim program. This software is opensource (at SourceForge.net), and contains all the necessary routines to communicate data (phonebooks / SMS / etc.) with most CDMA phones. It appears that to make this work, SMS messages as well as the phonebook would need to be downloaded as a binary file and unencoded.

I should point out that this type of communication is very different from other phones. Currently (if I'm correct) non-cdma phones make use of AT type commands, which are far more straight forward to work with, but VERY different from the binary dump style communications of CDMA phones. I would suspect that it would be much more involved to implement into PhoneControl.

Random Thought: I do know that the battery level has straightforward AT command support on CDMA, so there's certainly hope for that.

Lastly, it's certainly worth mentioning that most current CDMA phones support applications developed in BREW. BREW is essentially a language to create programs (like games and email programs) for CDMA phones. Theoretically therefore, this might make it possible for CDMA phones to emulate the behavior of a GSM phone using a BREW application so that CDMA phones would respond to PhoneControl in the same way that GSM phones do. The SDK is freely available at http://brew.qualcomm.com/brew/en/ . Unfortunately, I'm not a programmer, so I can't really be of much help in this area. Any BREW developers out there wanna help Zorro on this?? I'll test

Thanks again for everything your doing Zorro!!! You rock!!

Bryan

Originally Posted by Bryan Pape

Hey Zorro and fellow PhoneControl users,

How is it that Zorro never seems to age??

I'm doing drugs

Hi Bryan,
thank you for your comment on this. I hope this will help.

Here's my comment on that:
I took a quick look into BitPim functions. It seems, the only benefit it'll bring is to read out the phonebook. As we can cover that with PBConverter and exporting names and numbers from anywhere, there is no need to deal with binary files. Especially not, if each one has another structure/format.
Changing bitmaps and stuff anyway is no subject for PhoneControl.

Random Thought: I do know that the battery level has straightforward AT command support on CDMA, so there's certainly hope for that.

Surprisingly, I've found documentation on the net, which has a complete description of AT commands for CDMA phone. They are no myth... they exist

Lastly, it's certainly worth mentioning that most current CDMA phones support applications developed in BREW. BREW is essentially a language to create programs (like games and email programs) for CDMA phones.

That's a good idea. If someone out there has built such a application, please contact me and we'll see what we can do.
What I figured out so far, BREW is like the Symbian SDK for GSM (European) phones.

Otherwise, I'll only need someone how is experienced enough to connect it's phone to HyperTerminal and try some AT-Commands with my assistance.
Riff did that but unfortunately, he has no phone that's very AT-Command compliant.
I suppose, the better chances are with LG phones.


So, don't give up guys

AT commands for which features? Whas it the Kyocera doc?

No, it's a Wavecom. This is supposed to be a CDMA mobile phone module which can be integtrated by various vendors.
It has described almost all features of the IS707 specification.

I've heard from the Kyocera which is supposed to be similar to the Sierra Wireless devices but I didn't find any AT-Command set yet.

Wondering if anyone can help me out. I'm currently on bell mobility (a cdma network in canada) and i REALLY want to get a bluetooth phone not only to use phonecontrol for, but to get on the net through from my carpc, pocket pc and notebook.

I've done a lot of research and it looks to me like i have to switch to a GSM network. This really sucks because i have a great voice plan through bell (GM corporate plan) and i'd love to stay with them. They have great coverage as well.

Anyway i was considering switching to FIDO and getting the Sony Ericsson Z600 but it will cost me quite a bit to do. I'd rather just find a CDMA Bluetooth phone that will work *well* with phonecontrol and be done with it. Any suggestions?

I was reading in a thread somewhere that Motorola just released the V710 similar to the V600 with the exception that it is a CDMA phone.

will it work?

Help, any suggestions welcome!

Originally Posted by ryguy

Wondering if anyone can help me out. I'm currently on bell mobility (a cdma network in canada) and i REALLY want to get a bluetooth phone not only to use phonecontrol for, but to get on the net through from my carpc, pocket pc and notebook.

I've done a lot of research and it looks to me like i have to switch to a GSM network. This really sucks because i have a great voice plan through bell (GM corporate plan) and i'd love to stay with them. They have great coverage as well.

Anyway i was considering switching to FIDO and getting the Sony Ericsson Z600 but it will cost me quite a bit to do. I'd rather just find a CDMA Bluetooth phone that will work *well* with phonecontrol and be done with it. Any suggestions?

I was reading in a thread somewhere that Motorola just released the V710 similar to the V600 with the exception that it is a CDMA phone.

will it work?

Help, any suggestions welcome!

Hi ryguy,

I'm afraid, there are not to many options.
I've had a little chat with Roger, the author of BitPim. He depicted me the situation on the US market, and how these CDMA/TDMA/GSM technologies compete with each other (thanks again to Roger).

In short, this is what I've learned for now:
1. TDMA is dead (almost)
2. CDMA has the better technology
3. GSM has the better handsets

Right now, the only choice for a CDMA Bluetooth phone seems to be the Motorola (just guessing since I don't live in the US), but I'm not sure if it'll work with PhoCo (at least it's not about the BT, it's about the AT-Command set).
In generell BT seems not to be an option for the US vendors, because it twists up the price of handsets.

Another thing Roger told me is, that most of the CDMA phones will allow to access the phonebook and do SMS via a PC connection, but most of them doesn't allow establishing voice calls and have no incoming call notification at all (there are exceptions but they're rare).

From my point of view, this makes using PhoCo a bit senseless. In this case you'd better forget PhoneControl at all and your decison for a new phone should be focused on the better technology (if this is what you need) or the better (cheaper) plan.

Sprint also has the t608 bluetooth cdma phone which I believe can be unlocked and used with other carriers. It is hard to find except on ebay and I am not sure if it will work any better with phonecontrol. Looks like your best bet would be to switch to GSM.