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    @Hark

    That is what I was looking for. Doesn't look bad at all.
    I've attached you the updated Wizard configuration which lists the PalmOne Treo 650. This will setup your PhoCo right.

    As far as I've seen from the logfile, here's the no-go's:
    - Internal phonebook
    This one returns with TIMEOUT which means it's not being processed internally.
    Since you can sync the Treo with your Desktop PC you should use PBConverter or Outlook to get your contacts into PhoCo.
    - Battery level
    Same. Returns an Error.

    I'd be glad if you could do a bit more testing, such as the other phonebooks (SM, missed, dialled, ...) and also SMS, which should be working as well (at least, this is what the log says).

    BTW: You should download the latest binaries of PhoCo. The one you're using now doesn't have speech.
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    Thanks, will test and report back.

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    hark, if there's a way to sync the contacts and the battery status with your pc, there should be a way to get this. for my v710 (verizon) i had to reverse engineer the way it worked. i used mobile phone tools (motorola) to make calls, and sync the phone book. then i used the serial log file to look at the way it did it successfully. if you 650 users can find syncing software that will work over the bluetooth com port, then look at the serial log files to see what at+ commands make it successful. zorro can then see how it connects and integrate it in the software.

    by sync'n software i mean something can sync it to outlook or some kind of phone book, or something that can let you dial remotely from a pc.

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    @Zorro

    I've downloaded/installed the latest version of PhoneCo (1.5.1), and I put the Wizard.Config.xml file in place. The wizard does indeed allow me to select PalmOne/Treo650 now, but at the very end of the wizard I get the following message: "Wizard was unable to save the configuration file. Please check whether you have all rights needed to access the filesystem and restart the wizard."

    I installed it in the default location (c:\program files\PhoneControl.net) under the same windows user (there's only one for my system). All of the files/directories are listed as me being the owner. Any ideas? Sorry if I'm being dense and missing something. I did look over the FAQs on your forum. I also successfully created a phonebook by converting a CSV from Outlook. Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phylar
    Nope I have not. It looks like internally there is an AT command interface according to a skilled Treo 650 hacker, but that doesn't seem to be exposed at the API level. So yes, like WinCE there would need to be a driver AFAIK.

    I do have one idea for a quick hack that might work, I'll give it a try tonight.
    I was able to access the AT command interface, but only with the bluetooth DUN activated. Since this is not normally activated on my phone (since it prohibits me from getting emails or accessing the web from the phone), it'd be nice to find a way to have it available without having DUN always on. I'd hate to have to manually set the phone's DUN everytime I get in/out of the car.

    It drives me nuts that I have one of the most advanced phones available today and it can't do the simplest bluetooth capabilities that the $50 phones can do. Thanks Palm!

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    @Zorro, one more thing - I'm selecting "Roadrunner" at the end of the wizard, and have inspected this directory - it seems to be "read only", and everytime I uncheck this attribute for the folder, it reverts back to being read only. Could this be the problem? I can modify files in the roadrunner folder.

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    The wizard isn't writing anything into the RR directory, it's just to setup the config. But if you did a complete new setup, then the "PalmOne" config is not in the setup. After the Wizard has finished, it looks up for this configuration section to setup Port and stuff.
    If this one is missing then, it'll raise that message.

    Simply copy the "PalmOne" section into PhoneCtl.Config.xml as you did before.
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    Ok, that worked - so the wizard completed successfully. Here's what I see:

    - Phone book entries (from my CSV file) appear
    - Antenna strength seems to work
    - Battery strength isn't correct (as you suspected)
    - No data for received, sent, missed calls
    - No data for SMS
    - No indication of voicemail waiting (is it even supposed to?)
    - When call was received, it rang on the phone, but not on PhoneCo screen, until the very last ring (4) before it goes to voicemail, at which time it said "caller unknown" even though the number should be in the phonebook.
    - Dialed call via phonebook seemed to go through, but I got no audio via the laptop speakers (not sure if this is configured correctly) and the call seemed to drop after a few seconds (should've lasted longer than that).

    I'll keep testing (any more suggestions?) but it's not looking good for the Treo.
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    Last night I setup a pairing to a headset I have (haha cause my personal phone is a cheapo, no bluetooth), and was looking to see if I could just change the bluetooth MAC of in it some database to my PC's bt mac address... but didn't see it changing any DBs really besides adding it to the trusted device list... hrmmm.

    hmm DUN gives you access to the AT command interface huh? Is it the full AT command set, or does it have issues that zorro found from the log file?

    Looks like you could have a program that turns on DUn when it comes in range of your carputer, and off when it goes out. Again there's also the option of having a "driver" (really an app) written that interrprets AT commands to the HsPhoneLib API calls - but it wouldn't be DUN and you could use your phone like normal. Either way it seems like it will take custom work.

    Have you seen some of shadowmite's patches??

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    Ok, the other phonebooks don't work, so that is confirmed.

    But for the other stuff you have to check again because PhoCo was in the middle of the init-phase while your call came in. This the reason while it has not been processed.
    Voicemail indication isn't a feature of PhoCo.

    @phylar
    Yes, you're right an additional application that emulates AT-Commands would be great. Especially because you can optimize features used. That's what I did with WindowsMobile phones. But it took me 3 weeks to get it up and running on the various WM phones.
    So yes, it is a lot of custom work to do

    But for now, I guess, the DUN will do.
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