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    Hectic, I am just curious, why are you so adamant in pointing out the benefits of using a low power cpu to the power hungry user crowd?

    "Save juice where you can, 2.5" HDD and a low power CPU are a must IMO."

    Based on my experience, I don't have a problem with juice. My carpc can be left on all night, and I still can start my car in the morning using a single car battery. I am running Vista, two desktop hard drives, one spins @ 10,000rpm, the other @ 7,200rpm, an 8600GTS graphics card with a core clock at 774Mhz, and a 17" LCD. In my opinion, while it may sound like overkill to a vast majority, that is still more than enough run time.

    If you want me to pull it off with a quad core phenom, send me the processor, and doug's motherboard.

    It all boils down to using a darn good battery, PSU, and how you configure the ACPI.

    I believe it won't be long before you start looking into a dual core setup.

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    Well, I have the phenom to try it out! That's what replaced the FX-62 on my desktop. I really don't understand the whole overkill either. Some of us just like being prepared. There are so many variable in place that it is strictly to taste, but no one is technically "wrong" here. I run RR and the DFX Skin...The latest DFX4 took my CPU load from an average of 10% to 40%. Now you add on navi software running simentaniously with MP3, internet connection, (not to mention the gps receiver and perpihps funneling on the bus) fusion brain MDX, SB Live sound card and KX drivers etc... I by no means am sitting playing GTA. It's there if I need it and DORMANT when I don't...Again, capability and peak operation means what it says, when you challenge it to that point. 2 Years from now everyone will be asking the next guy why he is putting a quad core in when they do just dandy with there dual core...Moving along........

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    Thumbs up

    I'm waiting for Shuttle to release the H7 5800, based on the Intel i7 Core at CES 2009. I'll be getting that rig to use as a desktop computer so that, like you mentioned, "two years later", it will be a simple, no mod, direct replacement with the Shuttle ST20-G5 in the Jetta.

    In reality, what suits you best, is ultimately, what counts.

    Happy CarPuting!

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    Quote Originally Posted by WuNgUn View Post
    I'm going strictly by my experiences as it pertains to audio signal processing, i.e. AudioMulch...
    With my NF7-S board (which is considered a great socket A board), I was limited to how much VST plugins and at what sampling rate I was able to process my audio. Even with rather low CPU utilization (under 40%), I would get drop-outs, tempo shifts, static on the output stage...I was forced to lower my sampling rate.
    On my new board (socket 939), with an equivilent CPU, but with the ATI chipset, I'm able to sample higher and utilize more and more sophisticated VST's, while maintaining a higher or equal CPU load, and play the audio smoothly and cleanly...
    I think it has to do with memory management and bus thruput...i.e. the chipset.

    I made improvements with the nForce 2 board with BIOS tweaks, but it was never as good as I'm getting now.

    As far as my desktop PC is concerned, I was running an Asus 680i chipset with a Q6600 quad-core, overclocking of course, and it was VERY limited to as far I could go. It was also VERY picky with the RAM and power supply...
    Often times it wouldn't even POST with 'default' settings without having to remove a stick of RAM.
    My new board, Asus P5Q, with Intel P45 chipset is a marvel! Simply outstanding...I'm able to run my 2.4Ghz quad at 3.56Ghz easily (1776Mhz FSB!!)...RAM at 1180Mhz, all with just minor voltage tweaks.
    (Both quad boards ran liquid cooling as well)
    Wung, are you running a high-end sq system or something? Reason I am asking is I run an Amd board and will be upgrading the sound system and was wondering what problems to expect.

    @ dMand 101st huh? What years?
    If you cant DODGE em, RAM em.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ramanator View Post
    Wung, are you running a high-end sq system or something? Reason I am asking is I run an Amd board and will be upgrading the sound system and was wondering what problems to expect.

    @ dMand 101st huh? What years?
    Yeah, I'm running the best SQ I can within my budget...and I think I'm doing pretty good...
    Aurasound 10" sub, Premiere PRS drivers and tweeters, a pair of TRU T4.65 amps...
    I also made my own speakerwire (VenHaus) made my own interconnects...

    You certainly can do MUCH worse than the Asus Xonar D2...but the drivers are very tempermental....especially if you want to run active.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ramanator View Post
    @ dMand 101st huh? What years?
    From 1989-1993 Are you an Air Assault/Paratrooper too?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dMand View Post
    Hectic, I am just curious, why are you so adamant in pointing out the benefits of using a low power cpu to the power hungry user crowd?

    "Save juice where you can, 2.5" HDD and a low power CPU are a must IMO."

    Based on my experience, I don't have a problem with juice. My carpc can be left on all night, and I still can start my car in the morning using a single car battery. I am running Vista, two desktop hard drives, one spins @ 10,000rpm, the other @ 7,200rpm, an 8600GTS graphics card with a core clock at 774Mhz, and a 17" LCD. In my opinion, while it may sound like overkill to a vast majority, that is still more than enough run time.

    If you want me to pull it off with a quad core phenom, send me the processor, and doug's motherboard.

    It all boils down to using a darn good battery, PSU, and how you configure the ACPI.

    I believe it won't be long before you start looking into a dual core setup.
    The guy is wondering what happens if his PSU is overloaded, I provided a couple tips to keep power consumption within the M2's capability and mentioned the risk of overloading his M2. End of story.

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