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    Anything more powerful than a 150w opus?

    I am planning a computer system with mATX board, and a AMD 1700xp. Now i personally think that this PSU(opus PSU) wont be stong enough to power the system. Are there any other DC-DC Powersupplies that are more powerful?, Or am i forced to use an inverter?

    Thanx in advance!

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    what else are you planning on using with your system?

    150W should be plenty for what you want. Power supplies are rediculously overrated these days.

    The processor power table shows that the 1700 would be 50W or 64W depending on when it was made. Keep in mind that this is a maximum.

    And really, do you need 1700Mhz in your car? You can always underclock the processor to save on power. Unless you plan on renting a DVD, and then ripping it in your car while you're grocery shopping so that you can return it on the way home, you really don't need that much power, do you?

    In any case, the Opus can put out 12A (15 peak) on the +5V rail. If you have the 0.13um die processor then you should be OK with the Opus, however if you have the 0.18um then it would be too much for the Opus to power if it runs at full utilization for a long time.

    Check out my Mp3CarFAQ (link in my sig), there's links to some commercial power supplies in the 250-400W range, but be prepared to pay through the nose. If you underclocked you could probably stick with the Opus and save yourself $100.

    So no, there are options other than an inverter but they are expensive.
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    WOW didnt know that chip only eats 50w of power. i thought it would be more,anyway the reason i want the 1700xp is i want to maybe run it at home or atleast have the option. I dont see how getting an opus will save me money, when an inverter and a PSU cant run me more then 100$. Do i need some crazy inverter thats over 500watts?,wit a 300watt PSU?

    Thanx for the reply !

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    I meant that you could buy only the 150W PSU and not the 250W, thus saving you $100.

    But yes, an inverter would work just fine. You won't be able to use it for long with the car turned off and you might notice interference, however it will work just fine.

    If you have a 300W PSU (I doubt that you will ever see anywhere near that used though), you should probably get a >= 400W inverter just to be safe. A 300W inverter would not be enough because even if you only use 200W, if it's at 70% efficiency then you're drawing 285W from the inverter, which is too close to the limit.
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    Sorry dude for the amount of time it took me to respond.

    Ok so that chips is only requiring 50w of power! anything else need a huge amount of power?. So far im planning on using laptop drives,(hd and CD rom) those should take miniscule amounts of power. i know ure prob gonna luagh at this one, but will the mobo or ram drain some power? and if so do u know around how much ? I thought i was gonna need some heavy duty PSU

    thanx in advance

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    I think running the XP-1700 on an Opus is borderline, you're gonna be pushing the power limits.

    Actually in this case using laptop drives are *worse* because they take their power off of the 5V rail, which is the rail that you need to NOT take power off of. Normal drives use the 12V rail for the main power, which would be better in this case.

    Yes, the motherboard, ram, and everything else in the system all take power, however the ram and AGP port (graphics card) uses the +3.3V rail, USB uses 5V rail, not much uses the 12V rail. I don't know the actual numbers for how much the mobo and ram takes, but the graphics card will take next to nothing if you're not actually using it

    You might need a bigger PSU for that CPU, or do you know how to do any electronics work? If so, you can easily build a small circuit to give another 5V 5A off the +12V rail, which would solve your problems.

    Also don't forget that the numbers quoted for the processor are worst case numbers I think. I doubt that you'll see those numbers under normal use, unless you plan on cracking RSA while you're driving, so most likely you should be fine with an Opus, just as long as you don't really tax the system by running a lot of things off of the 5V rail. I would recommend against using the laptop drives if you can, but if you already have them or are determined to use them, just beware that it might draw too much power out of the system. However if you made that extra 5V rail then you'd be all good.

    However if you stick with the inverter and a normal 200W PSU then you'll have no problems at all.
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    Honestly, I got a Top Microsystems 250W DC-DC and paid $165. I bought Mastero's Shutdown controller for $30 or so. That makes it around $195... so about $6 more for 100W more power.

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    The opus is $150 including shutdown controller. So you paid $45 more for 100W more power.

    Do you have a link to that PSU?
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    well when I got a price quote it was $190, but thanks for "correcting" me.

    Here's the email.


    Hello,

    Thank you for your interest in OPUS Solutions, Inc. DC-DC
    power supply for ATX mother boards.

    SFX-12-15 DC-DC power supply is specifically designed to withstand
    automotive environment. It is ruggedly built, wide operating temperature and
    input voltage, over 90 % efficiency, ignition input for shutdown control,
    delayed shut down timer up to one hour and many more features.
    It is not just an another PC power supply, it is a smart supply.
    It is also capable of driving an Intel P4 Mother board system.

    SFX DC-DC Power supply price

    Product Part # 1+ 10+
    SFX-12-15 US$190 US$181

    The Power supply is available without case and fan. The prices are
    US$180 @ 1+ and US$170 @10+ respectively.

    Shipping charge for a single unit is $9.00 within continental US by UPS
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    We would like to know your application for this power supply, Mother board
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    Kris Ponmalai
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    Laguna Niguel, CA 92677 USA

    sales email: osales@opussolutions.com
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    If you wanted to run an Athlon XP1700, unlock the CPU and underclock it! It'll save on a lot of power, then when you need it, clock the speed back up.

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