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    Possible EPIA-M & Sproggy Solution

    Hi All,

    I have been reading all I can on the EPIA-M and Sproggy failing to allow the board to POST issue, after some research I may have found a trivial solution (I dont have an EPIA, but I do have a Maxim based PSU).

    We basically know the more power, sproggy v2.8 ps_on and 5v standby add-ons have not fixed the problem. Also some people have observed that PWR_GOOD is not needed either. It seems like the PS_ON is the culprit, but I dont think it is a timing issue.

    Someone measured that PS_ON goes to GND and then open... this got my brain ticking!

    My ATX PSU requirements state (stripped version):
    "when PS_ON is held high by PC or left open power supply should be off, when PS_ON goes to GND power supply should turn on"
    That all makes sense... but then it states:
    "this signal (PS_ON) should be held at +5VDC by a pullup resistor internal to the power supply"

    BINGO... I pulled apart an old PSU, which has a 560 Ohm pullup resistor between the PS_ON (Gray) lead and standard +5VDC (Red) leads, a quick look at the Sproggy design and there is no pullup resistor.

    I think the EPIA pulls PS_ON low, the PSU starts up, it then releases PS_ON and reads its value, which on an normal psu is 5v (via pullup resistor) but on a sproggy is a open circuit. The EPIA senses the open circuit and aborts POST assuming the PSU has failed.

    So if someone with a EPIA-M and Sproggy would like to try this out and report back I would greatly appreciate it! I so want a M10000

    Solution: Place a 560Ohm resistor between PS_ON (PIN14) and +5VDC (PIN4/6/19/20).

    Someone with an OPUS may like to take a look and see if this is the case also.

    NOTE: This is just a theory!

    Thanks

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    Hi,
    I worked with my sproggy and via epia-m9000 and have found that the problem has to do with how much current the Epia draws at start-up. The sproggy seems to only be able to supply enough power if it is hooked up to a good battery. I found that mine works fine off a car battery, but not off a bench power supply unless I have a BIG capacitor to give the sproggy a boost on startup. I think the only way to fix the problem is to use a tank circut for your sproggy if it wont work strait off the cars power.

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