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    Quote Originally Posted by Autonator View Post
    UPDATE: Mini-box support progress.

    I was finally able to talk to Andrei. He talked nicely and was helpful. We discussed eth problem, he told me that he believes that he has pin pointed the problem and told me what needs to be done.

    KUNZ:
    This might help you..

    He said that if i have a sautering gun, he can guide me on what to do.
    He said i will need to replace a capacitor on the M2.
    The capacitor is #C-35 and currently it is 22 Nano farads.
    It needs to be 10 nano farads.

    He said that he will send me the capacitors that i can replace. I dont have the supply in front of me right now, but i hope the C-35 is easy to find and marked properly. He also told me that he will send me another supply just in case. He also said that all he wants from me is a feedback if it worked for me. I have no problem doing that.

    I will keep you guys posted. I think this is the best progress solving this problem yet out of all the threads..

    So he was a good help to you. Nice guy isn't he

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    Yes dude thanks for the contact info it made it fast. He emailed me back telling me that he is sending me a updated power supply via USPS 3 day, and i need to test it and let him know of the results. He is also sending me the capacitors.. I donno why but he said you can mod teh one u have if want with those. So i guess he does not the old one back Ebay here i come..!

    I came home and tried to find C35, and it wasnt one of the big onse.. it was one of the tiny tiny onse the rectangular little bits that you see sautered. Now I no way can replace that. its the job of a robot to put there or may be a really needle like sauter head with a magnifying glass. Anyways.. i am doubting that he gave me the right location, cuz he did use the word "I believe" "its C35". so he wasnt sure?.. anyways i will confirm that again.. C35 is one of the little bits right under the fuse and the grey block.. you will see a row of those tiny bits. You will see C34 then C35.

    Now i gotta wait for 3 days..
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    Thanks Autonator!

    Let us know if it works out!

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    KUNZ:

    I recieved an email from another support person from minibox who confirms that it is not C35 but C36 that has the problem.. below is the email.. Andrei i guess was trying to guess out the number but this is official now its C36 that needs to be changed from 20 to 10 nano farads. Also this tech support person does not know that i have already talked and am working with Andrei. The email below was result of the email i sent to them three days ago. Meanwhile I contacted Andrei through the Ph# TN6478 gave me. I will not be replying to this email. I will continue talking to Andrei.

    I will keep you guys posted, i believe we are close !



    Dear Sir,

    There is an incompatibility with Commell mainboards and it can be resolved by changing the value of the C36 capacitor.
    We will implement this change in the future production, but until then please sent back your M2-ATX and specify the problem you have. Hope this information helps.

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    Actually, you should contact Andrei and confirm what he wants you to do with the second unit. Also, it is SOLDER not SAUTER, just FYI.

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    Hope your good at soldering because that's probably a tiny Surface mounted capacitor.
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    Ya know, i have had the exact same problem you describe in your first post. I am using the Vista C7 board (Jetway series). The only workaround i have found without giving up my VoomPC case so I can use a different power supply is to just wire up a power/reset switch and tap the reset after a few seconds. System boots up successfully every time when i do this, but only once in a blue moon do i ever get the system to boot on its own in the car. I have to say thou, its a great little power supply other than the startup problems. It has never once failed me during operation, and shutdown controller works flawlessly. Unfortunately for me, im the kind of person who wont just go out of my way to get another board (RMA or otherwise) and will just deal with the reset button method.

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    UPDATE: Mini-box support progress.

    KUNZ, Wiredwrx, v8 scimitar: here are answers to your posts..

    I just recieved an email from Andrei. Things changed a little bit again concerning the capacitor being C35 or C36. He corrected the support person who emailed me earlier.. here is the email below.



    "Atif,

    No need to send back the PSU.

    Hiu Cristi -- please note that it is C35, not C36.


    -Andrei"


    So it is C35 again and i think he is pretty sure now.. SO i guess C35 is FINAL. C35 is one of those surface mounted onse, so yes its going to be hard. I have done micro soldering before on a motherboard to fix it. I tied a sewing needle in front of the gun and used that to remove and replace a tiny capacitor. So i guess i can do this one too. Since im getting a modded one, i might keep the present one as a backup.

    Sautering Gun, Soldering gun, Sauter, Solder, Same damn ****.. thanks for correcting me though but i think you can use both.. google it..

    Will keep you guys posted..
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    Quote Originally Posted by GFridrich3 View Post
    Ya know, i have had the exact same problem you describe in your first post. I am using the Vista C7 board (Jetway series). The only workaround i have found without giving up my VoomPC case so I can use a different power supply is to just wire up a power/reset switch and tap the reset after a few seconds. System boots up successfully every time when i do this, but only once in a blue moon do i ever get the system to boot on its own in the car. I have to say thou, its a great little power supply other than the startup problems. It has never once failed me during operation, and shutdown controller works flawlessly. Unfortunately for me, im the kind of person who wont just go out of my way to get another board (RMA or otherwise) and will just deal with the reset button method.
    Your technique did not work for me.. I did think that it was a very good possibility when i thought of it.

    One thing i have noticed is that it si possible that the board behaves the same way BUT on more than one problem. So my problem could be different than yours but the behaviour is same.
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    UPDATE: Mini-box support progress.

    I just recieved the replacement that has the C35 Capacitor mod. Its in my hands. I will be installing and testing it today, results in a few hours.

    On close examination, I do see that the C35 has been replaced on it. Its one of those tiny surface mounted capacitors. I do see that C35 has signs of after manufacture mod and clearly obvious that that one capacitor was hand done (not as pretty solder as other onse).
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