Thread: Power USB Hub with M2?

Originally Posted by travb81

Whats up Michaels bum? If its too hard to answer a newbies Q nicely, dont bother and let someone else handle it instead Mr Expert!

Wow, you are sooo on the ball, posting weeks after this conversation.

What is up my bum is all the static noobs and one post wonders create by asking the same darn question over and over and over again, thinking that the only "proper" post after the question is one that answers the simple question, and the indignant response that almost always follows from the noob because he thinks he DESERVES an answer for some reason.

I am not, and in facty no is here, to hold anyones hand an guide them through carputer building. The forum is a resource, NOT tech support. Everyone needs to read the god damned manual when they want to build a carputer. This site is the manual. When you get a new car (assuming you are old enough to drive) you read the manual, consult the index for things you need to know, and read. You don't call the manufacturer to figure out which one is the gas and which one is the brake.

Also, if someone doesn't speak concisely or correctly, how can anyone even attempt to help him. What also crawled up my bum is a complete lack of clarity in many peoples posts. Words mean things, and iuf they are used in a way that is confusing, I will ask for clarification. Just like if I were to answer a question incoherently it could lead to catastrophic failure for the OP, posting incomprehensible questions can lead to the same.

Besides, that is just the way I am. Some people call it noob bashing, I call it education. Tomato-tomato.

Michael

Michael, I think you´re right...

It´s annoying to have people ask the same question over and over again...

but if you´re willing to answer the question it´s may be because you are willing to be some sort of educator/teacher to the newbies to this hobbie...right?

well, when you go to school and a student ask a question because he doesn´t understand something, the teacher hopefully doesn´t tell him to stop asking question and find his answer in THE book. If that was the case there will be no need to have an education system and people would learn everything at home reading books and probably wouldn´t understand half (best case scenario) of what´s in the book...

Also, for that teacher, I´m sure, every year a different student is aking the same question and the teacher doesn´t tell that student to go ask the answer to the first student he answered the question to...right.

So yes it´s annoying but if you´re annoyed by it, just don´t waste you re time answering the question and if you do answer it it´s because you re willing to do so and therefore have no reason to bash the guy.

On the other hand, I´m still kind of a newbie and every time I have a problem I search first and ask after. The thing is that sometimes searching is not as easy as a google click. For example, the RRmobile plug in, very interesting and usefull thing...right? Well the main thread on it is, I think, about 60 pages times 15 threads by page = 900 threads !!! and most of them are absolutely useless, and there´s NO WAY a newbie OR a vet is gonna read 900 threads to get an answer when they can just ask in the forum. (I know I know I´m pushing it a bit but you see my point)

So maybe this guy needed a little shake because he actually didn´t search enough but all I´m saying is that, for newbies, all the answers my not be as easy to find as it seems to you.

cheers
JP

Excellent Post Jeep. I totally agree.

I do have to say that if someone is posting the same question in multiple threads, or not even making an effort to try on his own, I'd get annoyed.

BUT if someone is actually trying to figure it out, others shouldn't discourage him.

I just finished my carputer (well almost everything....Um...does it ever end?), and since I have done similar projects in the past, I didn't need to ask many questions. I was able to search the forums and discover my own answers.

Now there might be some people that are willing to jump into building a carputer, but are starting from a much lower level of experience. I think it is very important to show patience and answer the mind numbing questions over and over (or dont reply at all).

Sometimes I think people bash the newbies just to puff up their egos.

Originally Posted by jeep642

Michael, I think you´re right...

It´s annoying to have people ask the same question over and over again...

but if you´re willing to answer the question it´s may be because you are willing to be some sort of educator/teacher to the newbies to this hobbie...right?

Nope, that is where you went wrong. I am not a teacher. I am part of a community of people who helps support each other. There is a significant difference. I take, or someone takes the time to answer someones question about A. That is WRITTEN AND RECORDED FOR ALL TIME ON THIS FORUM. If you have a question, search the forum. And of course, it is not my JOB to teach. A teacher is paid, it is her job, and responsibility to teach, I have no such obligation.

Think of the forum as a library. When was the last time you walked into a library, stood up in the middle, and said, Hey, I need to know about whale sperm (or insert any topic, that is just a random topic I picked out of thin air), and expected someone in the library, or the liubrarian, to sit and explain the whale sperm to you. Perhaps the librarian would point you in the right direction, Books on Whales are in row 12, maybe she would send you to the card catalog and say, look for whale books. That is what I do, I send people to the card catalog, the search function. And while the search function aint that great here, you can use google to search the site, it is quite easy, and has been discussed on the forum several times, you can search for how to do it.

This is even more difficult when someone comes into the library and says, I want to know about sperm whale. Does he mean sperm whales, or whale spearm, or whale reproduction. With out being specific, no one knows what the person needs, or where he should go to find the information. Just because you don't like the answer, does not mean the question hasn't been at least dealt with.

Now, if some one comes into the forum, and asks a question that has not been answered several times, and I have the answer, I will give it to him. If it is the same ole thing, I will give him the and , since, I AM NOT A TEACHER.

Michael

Originally Posted by jeep642

Michael, I think you´re right...

It´s annoying to have people ask the same question over and over again...

but if you´re willing to answer the question it´s may be because you are willing to be some sort of educator/teacher to the newbies to this hobbie...right?

Nope, that is where you went wrong. I am not a teacher. I am part of a community of people who helps support each other. There is a significant difference. I take, or someone takes the time to answer someones question about A. That is WRITTEN AND RECORDED FOR ALL TIME ON THIS FORUM. If you have a question, search the forum. And of course, it is not my JOB to teach. A teacher is paid, it is her job, and responsibility to teach, I have no such obligation.

Think of the forum as a library. When was the last time you walked into a library, stood up in the middle, and said, Hey, I need to know about whale sperm (or insert any topic, that is just a random topic I picked out of thin air), and expected someone in the library, or the liubrarian, to sit and explain the whale sperm to you. Perhaps the librarian would point you in the right direction, Books on Whales are in row 12, maybe she would send you to the card catalog and say, look for whale books. That is what I do, I send people to the card catalog, the search function. And while the search function aint that great here, you can use google to search the site, it is quite easy, and has been discussed on the forum several times, you can search for how to do it.

This is even more difficult when someone comes into the library and says, I want to know about sperm whale. Does he mean sperm whales, or whale spearm, or whale reproduction. With out being specific, no one knows what the person needs, or where he should go to find the information. Just because you don't like the answer, does not mean the question hasn't been at least dealt with.

Now, if some one comes into the forum, and asks a question that has not been answered several times, and I have the answer, I will give it to him. If it is the same ole thing, I will give him the and , since, I AM NOT A TEACHER.

Michael

Originally Posted by jeep642

Michael, I think you´re right...

It´s annoying to have people ask the same question over and over again...

but if you´re willing to answer the question it´s may be because you are willing to be some sort of educator/teacher to the newbies to this hobbie...right?

Nope, that is where you went wrong. I am not a teacher. I am part of a community of people who helps support each other. There is a significant difference. I take, or someone takes the time to answer someones question about A. That is WRITTEN AND RECORDED FOR ALL TIME ON THIS FORUM. If you have a question, search the forum. And of course, it is not my JOB to teach. A teacher is paid, it is her job, and responsibility to teach, I have no such obligation.

Think of the forum as a library. When was the last time you walked into a library, stood up in the middle, and said, Hey, I need to know about whale sperm (or insert any topic, that is just a random topic I picked out of thin air), and expected someone in the library, or the liubrarian, to sit and explain the whale sperm to you. Perhaps the librarian would point you in the right direction, Books on Whales are in row 12, maybe she would send you to the card catalog and say, look for whale books. That is what I do, I send people to the card catalog, the search function. And while the search function aint that great here, you can use google to search the site, it is quite easy, and has been discussed on the forum several times, you can search for how to do it.

This is even more difficult when someone comes into the library and says, I want to know about sperm whale. Does he mean sperm whales, or whale spearm, or whale reproduction. With out being specific, no one knows what the person needs, or where he should go to find the information. Just because you don't like the answer, does not mean the question hasn't been at least dealt with.

Now, if some one comes into the forum, and asks a question that has not been answered several times, and I have the answer, I will give it to him. If it is the same ole thing, I will give him the and , since, I AM NOT A TEACHER.

Michael

Good point, I stand corrected, you're not a teacher.

but still...COOOOOOOME ONNN...easy on the newbies!!!