Thread: Problem with ADD1 and Winamp playlist sorting

This is an interesting issue.. the ADD1 command shouldn't care how you format/organize your playlist.. Can you save a M3U with your playlist after you use ADD1 on it (make sure to note which item was added with ADD1)..

Also, if you hit the "SELECT+" button, does it load the songs propperly into the playlist?

-If you wish RR to use the tags Winamp provides, please open WINAMP and set the option to read song's metadata ON LOAD. This is NOT encouraged if you load hundreds of files to the playlist at once. Note that if you toggle this option, RR will display the playlist in the format specified IN WINAMP!.

Because of this, I have Winamp setup "Read metadata when files are Played". With the ON LOAD option, I was not seeing artist names in my playlist. Is there a way for me to get artist and title tags without taking them from Winamp?

I've also been using strictly On-the-fly playlists, however when I use the SAVELIST command, it does correctly create a complete playlist, including songs that were added with ADD1 and SELECT+.

The SELECT+ command appears to behave just like ADD1 except that it works on folders.

Even though I have Winamp set to just show %title% in its playlist, when a song gets moved into the playlist with SELECT+ or ADD1, Winamp displays the complete filename of that song instead of its title. Clicking on it in RR will not play it (the highlight in RR and Winamp playlists drops down and plays the next available "non-added" song in the list).

Toggling the sort button produces very interesting results. When sorted by artist-title, The Winamp playlist correctly sequences the songs, but the RR display only displays the title for the added songs (whatever is after the " - " in the filename). When sorted by title, Winamp is using the complete filename for the added songs and just the title for the existing songs. Consequently, the added songs end up in the wrong place in the list.

I believe this all has to do with the metadata setting in Winamp and the fact that added songs are not processed correctly. What alternatives do I have to get artist and title tag data, while being able to sort? My directories are usually under a few hundred songs each and I use them instead of playlists to organize my songs.

When you use the "ON LOAD" option in winamp, you should specify the playlist format you wish to see the playlist -- meaning: if you want to see artists listed, you should do something like: "%artist% - %title%" IN WINAMP! -- if you use this option, RR will completely disregard your PLFORMAT setting (since it will leave the tags as Winamp Provides). Still, you should be able to sort the playlist using the same hotkeys, and RR should display it in the format provided by winamp.

Now if you don't want to load tags from winamp, simply set it to read metadata when played -- This will force RR to load the tags by itself as it used to be.

Regardless of that, ADD1 and SELECT+ (on files) should work, meaning, the files you add should play in RR and Winamp (you said they are NOT) -- and if it isn't that's what we should focus on. I have done work in the ADD1 function (also used by SELECT+) so this could be related to it.

I would like you to try a different version of Winamp and let me know what version you were using and the version you tried. (switch to an older version if using a newer one).

But here is the real question: This was working with an earlier version of RR ?? If so, then I most definitely have to fix something to make it work again..

Originally Posted by wysocki

Because of this, I have Winamp setup "Read metadata when files are Played". With the ON LOAD option, I was not seeing artist names in my playlist. Is there a way for me to get artist and title tags without taking them from Winamp?

I've also been using strictly On-the-fly playlists, however when I use the SAVELIST command, it does correctly create a complete playlist, including songs that were added with ADD1 and SELECT+.

The SELECT+ command appears to behave just like ADD1 except that it works on folders.

Even though I have Winamp set to just show %title% in its playlist, when a song gets moved into the playlist with SELECT+ or ADD1, Winamp displays the complete filename of that song instead of its title. Clicking on it in RR will not play it (the highlight in RR and Winamp playlists drops down and plays the next available "non-added" song in the list).

Toggling the sort button produces very interesting results. When sorted by artist-title, The Winamp playlist correctly sequences the songs, but the RR display only displays the title for the added songs (whatever is after the " - " in the filename). When sorted by title, Winamp is using the complete filename for the added songs and just the title for the existing songs. Consequently, the added songs end up in the wrong place in the list.

I believe this all has to do with the metadata setting in Winamp and the fact that added songs are not processed correctly. What alternatives do I have to get artist and title tag data, while being able to sort? My directories are usually under a few hundred songs each and I use them instead of playlists to organize my songs.

The ADD1 appears to work ok on another computer of mine that has a September 2006 version installed on it. I tried just copying that folder to my main computer but when I run RR, I get an "automation error". I guess that since I've upgraded my main computer I can't go back to an older version? In any case, ADD1 behaves differently in the two versions. Do you need a copy of my skin or anything to solve this?

You should be able to load older versions of RR to downgrade it.. depending on what version you may have to re-register some stuff..

I really do want to get to the bottom of this I'm going to place your commands in a test skin and see if they work... but considering the fact my ADD1/SELECT+ work, I'm unsure if I'll be able to determine anything... what version of winamp are you using ? have you tried a different version of winamp yet ?

FOUND THE PROBLEM!

Looks like the problem with ADD1 was caused by the location of the files! I have a development machine that I test skins and new versions on, and rather than duplicating my mp3 collection, I have it pointed to \\carpc\c\music as my music folder. This apparently works ok with everything I've done so far, but now that I'm trying the ADD1 command, it fails with network based songs. I copied some mp3's to my local development machine and ADD1 works fine.

I have several path commands like:
B1,20,093,260,62,"SETPATH;\\CARPC\C\Music\Classical"
and after this command, ADD1 fails. If I change it to:
B1,20,093,260,62,"SETPATH;\\C:\Music\Classical"
everything works! I can work around the problem by duplicating my collection onto the local drive, but it'd be nice to have it fixed for good. I'd like to experiment with RR in my home entertainment system as well as in the car and network awareness will be key.

Map a drive to your network location.
All my mp3's are on a server at home and I just have a mapped drive M:

works fine.

yes, it's never a good idea to reference files without mapping the drive first.. it has "unforseen effects" as most software will think it's a local file in the machine and will try to browse it the "standard" way.