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    Some Questions about the ART showing

    RR works with 3 different ART functions. the ALBUMART, the COVERART and the RADIOART.
    i learn, that its possible to show the pic of the albumfolder OR the pic out of the mp3 file.
    both are not possible. OR IS THERE A WAY TO SHOW BOTH ?
    sometimes i want to see the pic of the genrefolder i play and sometimes i want to see which artist are playing the song. in some screens i like to see both.

    another thing is how RR works with the RADIOART showing.
    it only shows the pic of the staton when the radio is on, or iam opend the radio_player.skin.
    what i liked is that it shows the radio station also when the TA function is activated.
    so i can make a phonecall and see also in a statusline which station brings me the news for riding.
    and wirh the pic i also can see that iam outside the region they bring the news for.

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    When you say show BOTH you mean at the same time ? It should just be a minor change in the mp3art plugin (so it doesn't use the same indicator code, or to add another one).
    For the RadioArt, if you're using just the frequency, you can add an indicator to the screen you want to display the art file desired -- i.e. Indicator code: "FILE;$RRPATH$RadioArt\$CURFREQ$.PNG" and then on the load of the screen or on a timer basis on that screen you'd execute "SETVARBYCODE;CURFREQ;FREQUENCY".
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    Quote Originally Posted by guino View Post
    When you say show BOTH you mean at the same time ? It should just be a minor change in the mp3art plugin (so it doesn't use the same indicator code, or to add another one).
    For the RadioArt, if you're using just the frequency, you can add an indicator to the screen you want to display the art file desired -- i.e. Indicator code: "FILE;$RRPATH$RadioArt\$CURFREQ$.PNG" and then on the load of the screen or on a timer basis on that screen you'd execute "SETVARBYCODE;CURFREQ;FREQUENCY".
    hi guino,

    in part of MP3Art and ALBUMART i mean both.

    in part of the ART showing i didn´t understand the philosophie which is behind the way RR is working with.

    as newbie i look what name you the coder give the "L", or "I" command. in the beginning of RR all was written und the "J" command.
    some older skins use it and i think the PHONE skin too.

    normaly i know, Guino and Mitch called it ART, so i think the right name for the pic of my phonebook should be called PHONEART
    ALBUMART is the pic of the album, and MP3ART is the pic which is saved inside the MP3file.
    RADIOART is the pic of the radiostation.

    a PHONEART is not inside RR and if my USB radio is on, i get inside the ALBUMART and the RADIOART the same pic....the active radiostation.


    in part of RADIOART i will try your way. i tried it with the name of the station which is always true. but, my bad RDS radio gives me sometimes inside the station name the title of the song.

    regards


    in RR basic is the ALBUMART fixed and worked like i need.
    the MP3ART.dll is a plugin with the "fault" that the outputname is ALBUMART too. isn´t enough rename the outputflag of the .dll
    into MP3ART ? so, both ART can work at the same time.
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    The "J" definition really was just an old definition (heritage from Mediacar skins) that we had to support one way or another -- everything goes into an "I" definition internally.

    The idea on the existing mp3art plugin is that current skins (which only display "ALBUMART") would automatically display art inside mp3 files (without editing the skin). Furthermore, in case there was no art within the MP3, it still would display any available album art as if the plugin was not installed -- this is still good/valid.

    It appears that your want a different mp3art plugin (That would not override the existing ALBUMART) -- this should be easy to do. However it would be hard to modify the behavior of the existing plugin without affecting the existing users/skins. So the best suggestion would be to add two new codes: "MP3ART" (displaying whatever is inside the MP3) and "FOLDERART" (For any art files in the folder) -- those could be added directly to the mp3art plugin so that you (and anyone else that wishes to) can use it in new skins (separately or together as desired) while existing skins can continue with the existing behavior (for those that are used to it).

    Just let me know what you think..
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    fyi mp3art is really a obsolete plugin

    i have long replaced it with mediaart plugin
    does more than mp3s
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    and another thing the indicator "albumart" is context sensitive

    it becomes radio art when, radio is ACTIVESOURCE
    it becomes sirius art when, Sirius ACTIVESOURCE
    it becomes xm art when, XM Radio is ACTIVESOURCE
    even does DVD art when, DVD is ACTIVESOURCE

    the mp3art (obsolete) plugin, overrides funcationality of indicator when audio is ACTIVESOURCE
    and mp3art, attempts to PULL image from the actuall mp3 file, then falls back
    to old behavior of looking in the path to find an image

    course MediaArt has long replaced mp3art plugin
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    hi guino...hi mitch (in alphabetic order)

    dont lets talk about whats better or not.
    fact is, for the newer plugin MEDIART i need to install a .net application.
    iam very pessimistic about that, because every program wants his own version,
    and its no game to play every version on my pc.
    so i install the MP3ART of guino on my pc. BUT, ´what i thought was that it get his own name, and not the ALBUMART.
    ALBUMART i need for the coverflow function of SAL.R. faster and better as every other program.

    so, what guino says he can change the OUTPUT name of his MP3ART .dll into FOLDERART...it would be perfect.

    also iam not happy that RADIOART and ALBUMART have the same pic inside if the radio is ON.
    by the way, which time is the radio ON. in my thinking its also ON if the TA function of the radion is active.
    at this moment the radio is in standby position and wait to change the volume to low and give the news of the streets.

    if RADIOART and ALBUMART are the same, i ask by myself....for what i need RADIOART.

    so, it would be nice if a ART function use a name for the function it works.
    PHONEART the pic of the number i selected
    RADIOART the pic of the selected radiostation
    FOLDERART the pic of the selected folder
    MP3ART the pic from the musictitle that played.
    if there is no pic inside..it gives a pic with the information NO PIC AVAILABLE. as now.

    hope we find a way to make RR simpler.

    thanks and regards

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    i dont think we can make those changes directly, we might be able to add, 1st off radio and music(mp3s) technically arnt active at the same time
    so.. "albumart" will and needs to be context sensitive

    i think you are outside the box...
    while anything is possible in a plugin, you can override anything you want

    internally there is no such thing as "PHONEART"

    ALBUMART will remain the same...

    one could write a plugin, and produce "MP3ART" as the embedded art
    now i dont like the "MP3" cause embedded art isnt just mp3s

    you want it to work a specific way, my suggestion is write your own plugin, to provide what you need...
    ok, your gonna tell me you dont program...

    i cant tell you what the coverflow plugin does with "albumart" indicator

    the simplest thing i can do... is add to the mediaart plugin, an indicator "MEDIAART" and that would be basicaly the same as "ALBUMART"
    but ONLY embedded art, and not the fall back art

    as you can see this is complicated

    and every program doesnt want its OWN version of .net framework... all .net applications(of same generation) share the same framework
    same as a VB6 program, no different, you cant run a vb6 program without the vb6 runtime
    ok its way smaller, but its 15 years old now, and doesnt do much
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    existing:
    "COVERART" (and is contexted to the folder you are browsing) will be the image in the folder
    "ALBUMART" will be the image in the MUSIC folder

    now with mediaart plugin:

    "ALBUMART" will be the image in the Embedded MUSIC File Image, if present, else falls back to folder image

    new to mediaart plugin:
    "MEDIAART" indicator which is ONLY embedded art from the music file, if exists.

    this new one are in the mediaart plugin, if you want to try it out pm me, i havent released anything till tested a bit
    both are active source music only
    Last edited by mitchjs; 09-02-2011 at 05:47 PM.
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    Added to RR

    "FOLDERART" indicator which is the MUSIC File's Folder Image, if exists, fall back attemp to "skinpath\NoFolderArt.jpg"
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