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    "Flash 10 ActiveX"

    Trying to install the latest RR.

    What exactly is "Flash 10 ActiveX"? I get the error that I need to install it first, so I click OK to download.

    Opens up IE but since my car isn't driving around attached to a 10 mile long ethernet cable, I have no internet on the CarPC. Copy/paste the URL into a txt file on a thumb drive, browse to webpage on home PC, takes me to a "Flash player" download page.

    Ok, not the same as "Flash 10 ActiveX", but I'll download it anyway....

    733 KB later and the installer is on my USB drive.


    Back to CarPC, run the Flash installer and get an "actionlist not found" error.

    Thoughts?

    Thanks.

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    its flash... you know by adobe

    http://www.mp3car.com/road-runner/12...sh-10-now.html

    i never seen thier installer not install...
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    Sorry, I didn't know "Flash 10 ActiveX" and "Flash Player" were interchangable terms.

    The installer you linked to is also 2.98 MB, not 733KB. That might be why the one I downloaded didn't work.

    Thanks

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    That installer you downloaded, is an installer, stupid I know.... I HATE programs / companies that do that crap. When you run that 700k file, it contacts Adobe, and downloads the actual information. You need to look for a link to download for offline installation.
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    i dont hate programs like that, it allows for dynamic installing
    ie only the componets you need (helps on huge programs, and allows a better way to update code)

    btw, get used to it, welcome to the world of the "CLOUD"
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    Installers that connect to the internet and run the actual installer online don't allow for anything more dynamic than an offline installer that gives you options during the install. Besides, not every computer is online.

    I really hope the cloud will just turn to snow and fall from the sky and we can be done with this stupid trend.

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    hehe, it truely is dynamic... while flash player is small
    other web installers, allow say only for your OS files to come down
    and the mfg only has to build one installer

    its here to stay... i dont trust the cloud, but its going to be a part of our lives
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    JohnWPB say: "The more clouds one have, the better the chance for nasty storm"!

    .net is a perfect example of a lame cloud installer. I have a install / rescue set of files for building PC's. I like to have the REAL .net install files and not the cloud ones., (especially since there is .net 3, .net 3.01, .net 3.000003, .net 3b Hahaha) When building a PC it is far faster to run local files than have to install(AKA download) 10 different .net variances.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sebberry View Post
    Sorry, I didn't know "Flash 10 ActiveX" and "Flash Player" were interchangable terms.
    Since no one went in depth on this, the explanation is:

    There are two common browser plugin formats:
    "Netscape Plugins" or "Gecko Plugins" - used by Netscape, Firefox, Chrome, Safari, Opera, etc, etc.
    "ActiveX Controls" - used by Internet Explorer and browsers derived from internet explorer

    A critical point about ActiveX controls that should be noted is that they may be embedded in any windows application, not just IE.

    So really "Flash Player" is a technology, and Flash 10 ActiveX is a particular implementation of it.


    Quote Originally Posted by JohnWPB View Post
    .net is a perfect example of a lame cloud installer.
    I'd hardly call these guys "cloud installers" haha, they existed long before "cloud" was a buzzword.

    But I hate seeing people in an industry focused on technology remain stagnant and set in their ways about how "technology" should remain the old way. The cloud trend exists because everyone wants to access the same things on their desktop/netbook/tablet/phone and hence isn't going anywhere. C'mon, do you really want to go back to syncing your PDA? But there is a time and a place for everything and things that don't belong in the cloud, shouldn't be put there. This is no reason to fear it in general.


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    for building PC's
    Note the plural. You describe the exact case for why redistributable installers exist.

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnWPB View Post
    When building a PC it is far faster to run local files than have to install(AKA download) 10 different .net variances.
    Definitely not true when you add in download time. If installing on only one machine, the online installer will definitely be faster and easier on the infrastructure. When installing on multiple machines, you are "redistributing" per say, and thus should use the redistributable version. The redistributable installer needs to download much, much more data than the online installer. The redistributable bundles updates and installers for every platform the .Net framwork runs on which is definitely an unnecessary waste of bandwidth and cpu time in decompressing.
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    THANK YOU paulF

    all the stuff we are talking about have redistributable packages
    just adobe, is a pita cause of licensing, thats why even my link in the post to a direct file is not what they want
    they want you on their site seeing thier stuff
    http://www.adobe.com/licensing/
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