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    RR With Creative Sound Blaster

    I have just fitted a Creative Sound Blaster ZxR Soundcard. My problem is that in RR Config I have lost the ability to chose 'Line in to unmute' in radio setup (Using ultimate DAB V5). The only options are 'disabled' and 'volume'. The line in on the ZxR shows up in Windows sound. I re-installed the drivers for Realtek with no change. un-installed the drivers for Creative, and the choices are back.
    Can anyone help with this, have just spent £200 and the sound is so much better, I dont want to go back, dont want to be without radio either.
    Jeff

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    rr can only control whats exposed to windows...

    you don't mention OS, but lets assume a modern os like win7

    if creative don't expose the playback mixer mute points, rr wont be able to control...
    no will windows


    remember the LINE-IN must show up on the PAYBACK side of the mixer

    like here:
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    when I look at the product... there is no support for line-in live playback on the mixer....
    (at least none that I can see)
    (this isn't the 1st product they made with this limitation, and people have complained in their forums)

    your only choice is to do capture... via winamp's line in plugin
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    you can also run the CoreAudio Mixer Control Explorer.exe app
    in C:\Program Files\RideRunner\VistaMixerControl folder...
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    Thanks. Windows 7 (32)
    ZxR does support live playback of aux-in, (That, independent mic in, AEC and quality playback is why so much cash), it all works fine, I just cant mute radio.
    Creative does not show aux-in in playback of Windows.
    Next step was to try line-in through Realtek and line-out of Realtek into aux-in Creative, (I only listen to voice on radio so quality not an issue). After re-installing Realtek drivers, I can see Line-in control in windows playback, and it all works. BUT in RR config the only options in 'line-in to unmute' are disabled and volume. The only way to get back options is to un-install Creative drivers.
    I have never used Winamp.
    I will look into Coreaudio mixer control.
    Sounds so good now with 41Hz amp9 and 2 small subs dont want to go back.
    Jeff

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    you cannot use the line in of the realtek, and the output of the creative
    unless you capture!
    back to winamp line in plugin for that

    rr only controls the DEFAULT sound card
    so... if that's the creative, then it can only access what creative chose to expose
    and if there is no controls in the playback side of the windows mixer (line) it cant be done by rr!

    what player are you using, only winamp has the linein plugin... no one that I know of has done one for say foobar2k
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    I have used RR for 2 years without Winamp, just used WMP with Radio plugged into 'rear blue-in'. selected 'rear blue-in' in 'line to un-mute' and everything worked as it should.
    I hoped the ZxR aux-in would show up in RR, it does not. the next try was ZxR as default playback, Radio into Realtek and out to ZxR., this works and I can mute/un-mute radio from Windows sound manager.
    The bit I did not get is that RR only shows default player, thanks now it makes sense.
    So if I use winamp with the line-in plugin that will give me control of line-in on the Realtek with ZxR as default?
    Thanks
    Jeff

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    no, when you use the line in plug in, you would be capturing from the ZxR, and playing though the ZxR
    there would be no mute, nor do I see the need for one, cause once capture stops, audio stops...

    you can complain to creative, for not exposing the AUX-IN in the playback side of the mixer
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    ok, most people use winamp, WMP fine... (I guess)

    you cannot play ACCROSS sound cards, without capture... ie make the computer "record" the audio, then play it back to the default playback device
    btw this adds latency
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    there must be SOME control of the AUX-IN somewhere, maybe in some creative application...
    maybe the is a command line interface (not likely)
    now that I think of it, if its not mixed on the playback side, then there is no control for it
    nor need to control it

    it just doesn't work the way you want it to...
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