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    Is it possible to run every prog embedded?

    I just added some programs to the launch folder and with most of them RR
    deals without problem. But OpenOffice for example always goes fullscreen
    and is not running embedded.
    Why is that?

    I put OpenOffice.ini in like that:

    [GENERAL]
    PATH = D:\Büro\OpenOffice\programm\soffice.exe
    TryEmbeddedTimeout = 5
    windowSearchString="OpenOffice"

    if i set path like
    .....soffice.exe -calc
    to run the Excel-like part of OOo, the callup is not working at all.

    What is needed to run a program embedded in RR?
    Is it possible with really every .exe?

    Thanks
    memy

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    Quote Originally Posted by memy
    I just added some programs to the launch folder and with most of them RR
    deals without problem. But OpenOffice for example always goes fullscreen
    and is not running embedded.
    Why is that?

    I put OpenOffice.ini in like that:

    [GENERAL]
    PATH = D:\Büro\OpenOffice\programm\soffice.exe
    TryEmbeddedTimeout = 5
    windowSearchString="OpenOffice"

    if i set path like
    .....soffice.exe -calc
    to run the Excel-like part of OOo, the callup is not working at all.

    What is needed to run a program embedded in RR?
    Is it possible with really every .exe?

    Thanks
    memy
    First question: is this a Java Application (like JBuilder or something?) cause to run an application enbedded, the first requirement is that the application is must be a windows native application (so you run a VM of some sort, it won't work).

    The second requirement is that his application has a specific Window Title OR a specific Window Class Name (if you know what that is...).

    Anyway for "discovering" such information, you can use a very nice simple application called Winspecttor Spy..
    http://www.windows-spy.com/download/

    You can find the information you need byt doing this:
    -Install Winspector
    -Run Open Office and make sure the window you want to enbedd is visible
    -Run Winspector
    -Drag the red target circle (top-left) onto the WINDOW TITLE of the window you want to enbedd -- you should see a red line around the entire window.
    -Now the window information is highlighted on the list of the left side of Winspector.
    -Right-Click on the highlighted item and hit "Properties.." a new window comes up
    -The information you need is in the two first lines of the properties window.

    You can try to use the second line info (Text) or the first line with a '!' in front (to denote it's a class name) as the windowsearch string. Examples would be:

    windowSearchString=!CabinetWClass
    windowSearchString=My Documents

    You should try to use the most unique of the two above to prevent other windows of the same information from being enbedded.

    If you can't highlight the windows with Winspector, you won't be able to enbbed them because they're not windows native applications.

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    In that way (via winspector) i tried it now with Acrobat Reader but didnt get it running embedded.
    Winspector offers "AdobeAcrobat" in 1st and "Acrobat Reader" in 2nd line bur both of them are not working as windowSearchString.

    Hmm... ok then i will just run them fullscreen and adjust the windows settings to make it little easier to use them by touchscreen - making the headline a little bigger.

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    Is it possible to embbed a fullscreen directshow overlay? With now windows toolbars etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vortex
    Is it possible to embbed a fullscreen directshow overlay? With now windows toolbars etc.
    It is possible to enbbed anything that I can find a window handle for.. that is, with a unique Window Title, Window class or BOTH. But if the window has an OVERLAY (hardware acceleration), when moving the window into position inside my application, it may be very well that it will not re-adjust it's settings and may not display correctly. Typically Full screen windows do not have a title, or use some other object (i.e.e desktop) for display, so it makes it hard to enbbed them.

    Also, when trying to enbbed Acrobat, did you try:
    windowsearchstring=!AdobeAcrobat

    (with the ! mark in front of it? -- this is what tells it's a class name)

    The new version of RR will support window search strings with BOTH Class names and window titles for improved accuracy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by guino
    Also, when trying to enbbed Acrobat, did you try:
    windowsearchstring=!AdobeAcrobat

    (with the ! mark in front of it? -- this is what tells it's a class name)
    Yes - it also goes into fullscreen
    But thats not a big thing.
    I will try now to do minimizing and closing via girder/remote - that would be fine also.

    Thanks guino

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    Quote Originally Posted by memy
    Yes - it also goes into fullscreen
    But thats not a big thing.
    I will try now to do minimizing and closing via girder/remote - that would be fine also.

    Thanks guino
    I believe that once the state of a window is set to "maximized", the application may very well prevent itself from resizing.. If there's a way to make Acrobat NOT start maximized, that may be enough to make it enbbed correctly.

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    I dont know if that would be a possibility - but it sounds good to me - i will give it a try tommorow.
    http://www.daveswebsite.com/software.../default.shtml
    WSTART [/CDdir] [/WTtitle] [ /HIDEMOVE [ /FTtitle2 | /FINDTOP ] ]
    [/POS x1 y1] [/SIZE x2 y2] [/DTdtop] [/SC row col] [/WAIT]
    [/LOW | /NORMAL | /HIGH | /REALTIME | /ABOVENORMAL | /BELOWNORMAL]
    [command/program] [parameters]

    /LOW Start window in NORMAL priority
    /NORMAL Start window in NORMAL priority
    /HIGH Start window in HIGH priority
    /REALTIME Start window in REALTIME priority
    /ABOVENORMAL Start window in ABOVENORMAL priority
    /BELOWNORMAL Start window in BELOWNORMAL priority

    /WAIT Start application and wait for it to terminate

    /MIN Start application minimized
    /MAX Start application maximized
    /FULLSCR Start application fullscreen
    .....
    Size, position, status and so on can be predefined by this tool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by memy
    I dont know if that would be a possibility - but it sounds good to me - i will give it a try tommorow.
    http://www.daveswebsite.com/software.../default.shtml

    Size, position, status and so on can be predefined by this tool.
    You can use that already by adding a button with the following code:

    "RUN;c:\wstart.exe <params>;Text to Speak"

    The text to speak is optional, but I do understand you dont get to run it the way you want in the Launch screen.. I can probably work something out if you cant get it to work right...

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