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    you probably downloaded that "PATCH" yesterday, redownload and it will work.. it was abug in the patch.. I'll be releasing the new version soon though.. it is not supposed to freeze on the mappoint even without a GPS..
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    Hi,

    One small question: how often is the gps updating the status using mappoint as navigation system. Could it be configurable? (there are actualy 2 questions )

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    It updates information from the GPS as often as 5 times per second. But this is of course faster than your GPS can provide information, so it basically processes messages as they come in.

    Now the Map itself is updated once every second -- hard coded, this because mappoint is somewhat slow to update the map.. if you have any speed issues, you should simply disable the Auto-Center option. If you don't thing 1 second is fast enough, I can tell you right away that anything less than this will likely cause your system to run slower...
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    For reference purposes - what spec machine are you running it on?
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    Quote Originally Posted by guino
    It updates information from the GPS as often as 5 times per second. But this is of course faster than your GPS can provide information, so it basically processes messages as they come in.

    Now the Map itself is updated once every second -- hard coded, this because mappoint is somewhat slow to update the map.. if you have any speed issues, you should simply disable the Auto-Center option. If you don't thing 1 second is fast enough, I can tell you right away that anything less than this will likely cause your system to run slower...
    The problem is not the actual 1 sec in Mappoint. Is the problem with mappoint 2002 (it is only one that have some eastern-europe coverage) that is updating at each 15 sec. 5 times per second I think that is more than enough.

    Btw, I have a problem (thanks in advance for patience...) I have unpack RR and start it and configured without GPS connected (did not have it with me). I have entered the COM4 as settings for the GPS (usb sirfII was on this before). Without mouse connected the GPS to I received an error like "Bad Parameter". If I disconnect the GPS RR is launching without problem. Should I take a look in the registry settings?

    Thanks a lot,
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    You should simply make sure that Mappoint is NOT configured to try and use your GPS.. (do this outside RR) and make sure it has all the show/hide places checked for nearby searches. RR will handle the GPS for you, Mappoint is not even aware that a GPS is connected when running inside RR.

    Just make sure to go under your GPS settings in RRConfig and set the com port and the type of map and hit SAVE. If you have any type of Config tool with your GPS, you should make sure it is set to NMEA! Sirf will NOT work in RR.
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    Quote Originally Posted by guino
    You should simply make sure that Mappoint is NOT configured to try and use your GPS.. (do this outside RR) and make sure it has all the show/hide places checked for nearby searches. RR will handle the GPS for you, Mappoint is not even aware that a GPS is connected when running inside RR.

    Just make sure to go under your GPS settings in RRConfig and set the com port and the type of map and hit SAVE. If you have any type of Config tool with your GPS, you should make sure it is set to NMEA! Sirf will NOT work in RR.
    Ok. I do not have the GPS activated for Mappoint and the error is the same.
    I have attached an archive with my rr.ini config and hw, plus some screen-shots (Err.zip).
    Maybe the problem could be regarding the locale settings: I am using windows 2000 professional - german version. I have tried to setup the system setting on Auto or Western-European with rrconfig. I received the same behaviour-error.

    My GPS is using standard NMEA protocol (even is SIRF chipset) and is using prolific usb-to-com driver (always using COM4). I restricted also from device manager to be only 4800 as speed for the com port.

    I am able to use separatley with Mappoint the GPS. I disable the usage in Mappoint (uncheck all settings regarding the GPS). However, when I launch the GPS application the satellites and position is detected (please take a look from to the view.bmp from archive).
    Exactly after the launch RR is reporting an error (please see err01.bmp). Pressing ok the mappoint is asking if I want to save the mappoint.ptm file (as shown in the err02.bmp).

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    Those are the same errors I get when I reboot the machine and try mappoint in RR before the gps gets a lock or less consistently when I resume from hibernate with RR running.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tolum
    Ok. I do not have the GPS activated for Mappoint and the error is the same.
    I have attached an archive with my rr.ini config and hw, plus some screen-shots (Err.zip).
    Maybe the problem could be regarding the locale settings: I am using windows 2000 professional - german version. I have tried to setup the system setting on Auto or Western-European with rrconfig. I received the same behaviour-error.
    My GPS is using standard NMEA protocol (even is SIRF chipset) and is using prolific usb-to-com driver (always using COM4). I restricted also from device manager to be only 4800 as speed for the com port.
    I am able to use separatley with Mappoint the GPS. I disable the usage in Mappoint (uncheck all settings regarding the GPS). However, when I launch the GPS application the satellites and position is detected (please take a look from to the view.bmp from archive).
    Exactly after the launch RR is reporting an error (please see err01.bmp). Pressing ok the mappoint is asking if I want to save the mappoint.ptm file (as shown in the err02.bmp).
    Thanks,
    Tolum
    Do you get this with the new version too ?

    I'm thinking (from your info) that it may have to do with the "comma" used as delimiter for decimal points..
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    I just tried the latest 04-02 build on trips today. I haven't yet got the same error. I was seeing my GPS apparently not connecting inside RR, but it took forever when I closed RR and loaded MapPoint instead, so I think that's just my GPS being slow to lock . So I don't yet know if I still have issues since within RR I have no way of knowing if an apparent lack of GPS lock is really that or if RR is not quite talking to the GPS properly. Can you distinguish between those too states? I.e. Will a GPS generate events on the COM port even when it has no lock? If so, some UI difference would be very helpful in knowing if you've addressed all the problems.

    I suspect that the 2 second wait you do in your hibernate code (I'm trying to hibernate always using RR at the moment to see if that resolves some of my issues) is not sufficient in some cases causing inconsistent hibernate behavior. Especially if that wait is still a 100% cpu loop (no sleep statement between calls to DoEvents). I have noticed hibernate seems to consistently take a lot longer if triggered via the RR menu than by the PC power button, which I would expect if the wait is still a busy loop.

    Guino - have you / are you about to try my suggestion of hooking the hibernate preparation/restoration code to the OS calls? Or should I make the changes here and see if it makes my experience better and let you know / give you the code?
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