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Thread: TOMTOM / Pocket PC Emulator / RR

  1. #81
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    Tomtom 3 vs Tomtom 5

    I am currently a Pocket PC user of Tomtom 3 and didnt bother to upgrade to TT5 because of all of its problems, and believe me there are more than a few.

    The main one on here seems to be to 100% CPU usage.
    This is exactly the same on a PPC, it is nothing to do with it running in an emulator. TT5 is grinding PPC's to a halt.

    Apparently its all to do with the fact that TT5 is built around a central core comapatable with Phone and TomTom Go units, with device specifics added on to that. The result just happens to be extremely high CPU usage, even on a 520Mhz XDA IIi PPC.

    My personal advice is drop TT5 and use TT3 instead. Much more stable.

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    The billion dollar question is still unanswered...

    Before I go configuring all these emulators etc etc, is this likely to run so that it is "usable" on our car PCs? By usable I mean:
    1. able to run within a front end software (e.g. RR)
    2. able to run with music playing
    3. able to run smoothly graphics-wise
    4. be responive in menus etc
    ...all within reason
    I don't mind about (re)routing calculation time etc. Just want to be able to use it.

    I have an EPIA SP13000 512 RAM etc. for e.g.
    IS IT GOING TO WORK? If so, is using tomtom 3 a better idea than tomtom 5?

    (regardless of the answers to this I'm going to try it anyway but just wanted to know )


    EDIT:
    I have been playing around with emulating TomTom Navigator 5 with a PocketPC emulator. I can confirm - Although it does functionally work fine, it is no where near fast enough to be "usable". It has almost 100% CPU usage on my desktop PC and is really sluggish - so I dread to think of the speed of it on my car PC! The PocketPC version is nowhere near as smooth (the graphics refresh rate) as the stand-alone version from TomTom (e.g. TomTom Go) anyway, so it wouldnt look as nice even it did work fine. This is such a shame as TomTom is easily the best nav software. Make us a PC SDK TomTom!!

    Now waiting to get hold of TomTom 3 to give that a try. If youre right ispartacus75 this could still work yet! I will let you know the results...


    LLOYDY

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    Just tried with tomtom 3. Same ol'. All hope is gone.....


    LLOYDY

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    That sucks I wish TomTom would make a proper Navigation package for us Car PC users. Oh well.....we're still a niche group so no chance of that happening anytime soon

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    Hey

    I can give you hope, but you'll prolly need to upgrade ur horespower a little.

    I've got TomTom 5 running using the emulator on my machine. It runs well in simulation mode. and that's running the emulator at 640x480x16

    The next things to try are:

    1. Get the PC to connect to a GPS receiver, and share the com port with the emulator

    2. Share a dialup adaptor to get an internet connection for traffic/weather updates

    3. Integrate TomTom with RR. So far my attempts have foiled, I guess I'd better talk to someone that knows a bit more about that!

    4. Butons 0-6, +, -, ESC and ENTER map nicely to the buttons in TomTom (0 = 1st menu, 1 = Navigate To.. etc.) Hopefully this can work in a macro fashion, so that "navigate to -> postcode" can be made as one button.

    Will post more when I have more.

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    Has anyone tried a Palm emulator instead of a PPC emulator ?

    I have not tried it myself but i have read previously that the Palm OS can be emulated with less resources than the PPC can.

    Then the Palm version of TomTom may run better.

    Just a thought.
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    The problem is most peaople haven't got the chance to up their horsepower in the car. Many of us are running low powered boards and CPUs.

    The Palm emulator is a good idea. I will look into this in the near future.

    LLOYDY

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    Hi,

    I finally have TomTom running on my laptop with the pocket pc-emulator. But there's one problem. It's terribly slow. I wonder how it's running on your systems. My specs: P4 3,06 GHz, 512 MBRAM. I expected my laptop to cope with it easily... Do you have any suggestions what to do about this problem?
    It's tomtom 5 by the way...

    J

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    at first glance, I would say your RAM is what's letting you down. I have mine on a P4 2.8GHz with 1gb ram and it works fine almost like my 500MHz pocket pc

    I would suggest doing this on your system to improve performance:

    turn of system restore (right click computer, system restore tab)
    again, on the computer properties, select advanced and perforamnce, then set it to best performance. this will turn off all this windows bells and whistles (like menu fading and all that crap)

    next, on the advanced tab under performance, set the virtual memory to a fixed file size by setting the intial and maximum size to the same number. something like 1024mb should be good.

    finally, have a look at documentation for the emulator, you'll find there are some switches you can pass in, like how much ram to have etc.

    I used something like this:

    start "C:\Program Files\Windows CE 5.0 Emulator\Emulator_500.exe" /CEImage "C:\Program Files\Windows CE 5.0 Emulator\NK.cem" /sharedfolder "C:\Program Files\Windows CE 5.0 Emulator\StorageCard" /nobootscreen /vmname TomTom /serialport1 COM1 /video 640x480x16 /memorysize 256 /Ethernet virtualswitch


    you may want to change the video to 320x240x8 also, and the memoy down to 128

    good news is that version 2 of the emulator is out with improved performance apparently. I'm currently trying to download it.

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    Allright, thank you very much.

    But it didn't improve the whole thing. It's just extreme. When I use the option
    Navigate to... , it takes at least 20 seconds before a letter appears. It's driving me crazy. And by the way, I was already using the newest version of the emulator. Would a normal pocket pc perform better? And a last question..
    Can you recommend me some navigationsoftware which is also available for pc (without emulator), someone which talks to you....

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