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    Question Cannot embed this program with Road Runner

    Can anyone help?

    I am trying to launch/embed this app in Road Runner but it just goes full screen all the time.

    Here are my settings:

    [GENERAL]
    PATH = C:\Program Files\DeltaDash\DeltaDash.exe
    TryEmbeddedTimeOut = 5
    WindowSearchString=TfrmMain

    I have used windows spy and followed instructions here:

    How to embbed any Application in RR ?

    but its still goes full screen...

    Would it be possible for someone that is in the know who could download the software and emulate what i am trying to do with RR and maybe get lucky?
    Its only a really small download and i would really appreciate the help as i have tried everything i know to get it to work correctly.

    Demo version of software can be found here:

    http://www.ecutek.com/downloads/DDDemo.zip (656kb)

    ECUTEK'S main site is here: http://www.ecutek.com/ (if anyone would like to look before hand)

    There is no installer, just unzip the program and place it into a folder and it will load up in demo mode and then if you could setup the program to auto start up "in car dashboard" options/Auto Startup Window/ In Car Dashboard then exit the program and now each time the program loads up you will have various ECU displays like revs, boost etc.
    If someone could then get the details from windows spy and see if you can get it to embbed i would truly appreciate the help.
    Ideally the absolute best would be a custom skin mapping the keys F2 to F8 for the various modes (Dyno Run, diagnostics, ignition retard) etc but for now i would like to see it working in road Runner before i give a dedicated skin a try.

    If someone could help me out here i would truly appreciate it and if there is one wish from Santa round about now this would be it.

    Cheers!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by DJ WATTS
    Can anyone help?

    I am trying to launch/embed this app in Road Runner but it just goes full screen all the time.

    Here are my settings:

    [GENERAL]
    PATH = C:\Program Files\DeltaDash\DeltaDash.exe
    TryEmbeddedTimeOut = 5
    WindowSearchString=TfrmMain

    I have used windows spy and followed instructions here:

    How to embbed any Application in RR ?

    but its still goes full screen...

    Would it be possible for someone that is in the know who could download the software and emulate what i am trying to do with RR and maybe get lucky?
    Its only a really small download and i would really appreciate the help as i have tried everything i know to get it to work correctly.

    Demo version of software can be found here:

    http://www.ecutek.com/downloads/DDDemo.zip (656kb)

    ECUTEK'S main site is here: http://www.ecutek.com/ (if anyone would like to look before hand)

    There is no installer, just unzip the program and place it into a folder and it will load up in demo mode and then if you could setup the program to auto start up "in car dashboard" options/Auto Startup Window/ In Car Dashboard then exit the program and now each time the program loads up you will have various ECU displays like revs, boost etc.
    If someone could then get the details from windows spy and see if you can get it to embbed i would truly appreciate the help.
    Ideally the absolute best would be a custom skin mapping the keys F2 to F8 for the various modes (Dyno Run, diagnostics, ignition retard) etc but for now i would like to see it working in road Runner before i give a dedicated skin a try.

    If someone could help me out here i would truly appreciate it and if there is one wish from Santa round about now this would be it.

    Cheers!!
    Wish I could help, but I can't. I do have to mention how far the EcuTEK software has come. Makes me wish I still had my WRX. :'(

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    I noticed your username... ECUTEK is pretty much the daddy over here in the UK for what they do and they are big players...

    Wiredwrx, you don't need to have a carputer or a scooby to try out my dilema above.
    If you download the software and run it on a home pc it just runs in a demo mode and pretends its connected to the ECU of a Subaru.
    Then all what else is needed is someone in the know with Road Runner installed on there desktop pc to try to embed this program.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DJ WATTS
    I noticed your username... ECUTEK is pretty much the daddy over here in the UK for what they do and they are big players...

    Wiredwrx, you don't need to have a carputer or a scooby to try out my dilema above.
    If you download the software and run it on a home pc it just runs in a demo mode and pretends its connected to the ECU of a Subaru.
    Then all what else is needed is someone in the know with Road Runner installed on there desktop pc to try to embed this program.

    Ya. I had a reflash done on my MY02 WRX, but at the time, the EcuTEK SW was not available like it is now. I miss those days.

    There are many more educated RR people out there, I am hopefull someone will pop on and give you a hand. Also, I am at work now, and downloading is a BIG NO NO.

    Good luck.
    Michael
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    Not all programs can be embedded, some programs really fight hard against any kind of window manipulation by other applications .. COPILOT if known for that. and any application that wants to run full screen is most likely to do it as well..
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    I dont know about the full blown program, but with demo version Winspector shows ClassName as "SysListView32" and window as "FolderView". Try either or both of these. Also have you tried to use the launch folder? My obd2 program works well from there. It may be as Guino says as I also have had problems with some apps. Good Luck.
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    I tried both of them PCBum but no joy, you mention them together however so how could i do that?
    What do i add to this to be using both?

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    Quote Originally Posted by guino
    Not all programs can be embedded, some programs really fight hard against any kind of window manipulation by other applications .. COPILOT if known for that. and any application that wants to run full screen is most likely to do it as well..
    So what are my options then if it will not embed? Is there nothing i can do to make it work?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DJ WATTS
    So what are my options then if it will not embed? Is there nothing i can do to make it work?
    Try out skinbedder. IIRC it is designed to embed windows. Maybe i'll work with this.

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    Also does it have any bearing whether this app i am trying to embed is highly skinable? Could altering some settings in the app's skin settings make it work in RR?

    Here is a list of what i can alter in the app:

    object DashDesignForm: TDashDesignForm
    Left = 1287
    Top = 6
    BorderStyle = bsNone
    Caption = 'DashDesignForm'
    ClientHeight = 480
    ClientWidth = 640
    Color = 16384
    DefaultMonitor = dmDesktop
    Font.Charset = DEFAULT_CHARSET
    Font.Color = clWindowText
    Font.Height = -11
    Font.Name = 'MS Sans Serif'
    Font.Style = []
    OldCreateOrder = True
    Screen = 0
    PixelsPerInch = 96
    TextHeight = 13
    object rgVehSpd: TRoundGauge
    Left = 41
    Top = 54
    Width = 393
    Height = 393
    Transparent = False
    Color = clBlack
    Font.Charset = DEFAULT_CHARSET
    Font.Color = clOlive
    Font.Height = -19
    Font.Name = 'MS Sans Serif'
    Font.Style = []
    UpdateInterval = 1
    UpdateOffset = 0
    DataSource = ddsECU
    DataChannelECUAnalogue = epVehspd
    DataChannelExternal = lj0
    MaxVal = 240
    AngleStart = -135
    AngleEnd = 135
    AxleRadius = 10
    AxleColour = clGray
    SmallTicks = 4
    TickCount = 17
    TickWidth = 2
    TickWidthSmall = 0
    TickColourSmall = clYellow
    TickColour = clRed
    TickTextRadius = 180
    TickStart = 150
    TickEnd = 165
    TickStartSmall = 155
    TickEndSmall = 165
    NeedleStart = 153
    NeedleEnd = 165
    NeedleWidth = 6
    NeedleColour = clWhite
    TextInterval = 2
    TextDPs = 0
    TickTextFont.Charset = DEFAULT_CHARSET
    TickTextFont.Color = clSilver
    TickTextFont.Height = -11
    TickTextFont.Name = 'MS Sans Serif'
    TickTextFont.Style = []
    TextDivide = 1
    BandStart = 35
    BandEnd = 0
    BandColours = '$FF2020,$20FF20,$20FF20,$2020FF'
    BandIndices = '0,25,50,100'
    PeakShow = False
    PeakPeriod = 2000
    TroughShow = False
    TroughPeriod = 2000
    Caption = 'Vehicle Speed'
    end
    object ThresholdGauge1: TThresholdGauge
    Left = 532
    Top = 8
    Width = 97
    Height = 33
    Transparent = False
    UpdateInterval = 1
    UpdateOffset = 0
    Shape = dsRoundedRectangle
    ColourTrue = clRed
    ColourFalse = clGray
    BitmapsUse = False
    SoundUse = False
    RedrawScreen = False
    Threshold = 33
    DataSource = ddsECU
    DataChannelECUAnalogue = epMap
    DataChannelExternal = lj0
    end
    object rgCoolant: TRoundGauge
    Left = 480
    Top = 291
    Width = 151
    Height = 151
    Transparent = False
    Color = clBlack
    Font.Charset = DEFAULT_CHARSET
    Font.Color = clCaptionText
    Font.Height = -16
    Font.Name = 'MS Sans Serif'
    Font.Style = []
    UpdateInterval = 1
    UpdateOffset = 0
    DataSource = ddsECU
    DataChannelECUAnalogue = epCooltemp
    DataChannelExternal = lj0
    MaxVal = 100
    AngleStart = -135
    AngleEnd = 135
    AxleRadius = 10
    AxleColour = clGray
    SmallTicks = 4
    TickCount = 6
    TickWidth = 2
    TickWidthSmall = 0
    TickColourSmall = clBlue
    TickColour = clRed
    TickTextRadius = 63
    TickStart = 45
    TickEnd = 53
    TickStartSmall = 45
    TickEndSmall = 49
    NeedleStart = 10
    NeedleEnd = 26
    NeedleWidth = 3
    NeedleColour = clYellow
    TextInterval = 1
    TextDPs = 0
    TickTextFont.Charset = DEFAULT_CHARSET
    TickTextFont.Color = clYellow
    TickTextFont.Height = -11
    TickTextFont.Name = 'MS Sans Serif'
    TickTextFont.Style = []
    TextDivide = 1
    BandStart = 30
    BandEnd = 40
    BandColours = '$FF2020,$FF2020,$2020FF,$2020FF'
    BandIndices = '0,50,90,110'
    PeakShow = False
    PeakPeriod = 2000
    TroughShow = False
    TroughPeriod = 2000
    Caption = 'Coolant'
    end
    object LedBarGauge1: TLedBarGauge
    Left = 4
    Top = 9
    Width = 516
    Height = 38
    Transparent = False
    Color = clBlack
    UpdateInterval = 1
    UpdateOffset = 0
    DataSource = ddsECU
    DataChannelECUAnalogue = epMap
    DataChannelExternal = lj0
    MaxVal = 50
    SegCount = 51
    Density = 0.8
    Rounded = False
    PeakShow = False
    PeakPeriod = 5000
    TroughShow = False
    TroughPeriod = 2000
    SegmentColoursOn = '$FF2020,$20FF20,$20FF20,$2020FF'
    SegmentColoursOff = '$400000,$004000,$004000,$000040'
    SegmentColourIdxs = '0,31,36,50'
    Invert = False
    SingleSegment = False
    end
    object rgRPM: TRoundGauge
    Left = 89
    Top = 102
    Width = 297
    Height = 297
    Transparent = True
    Color = clBlack
    Font.Charset = DEFAULT_CHARSET
    Font.Color = clOlive
    Font.Height = -16
    Font.Name = 'MS Sans Serif'
    Font.Style = []
    UpdateInterval = 1
    UpdateOffset = 0
    DataSource = ddsECU
    DataChannelECUAnalogue = epEngspd
    DataChannelExternal = lj0
    MaxVal = 8000
    AngleStart = -135
    AngleEnd = 135
    AxleRadius = 20
    AxleColour = clGray
    SmallTicks = 4
    TickCount = 17
    TickWidth = 2
    TickWidthSmall = 0
    TickColourSmall = clOlive
    TickColour = clYellow
    TickTextRadius = 87
    TickStart = 100
    TickEnd = 135
    TickStartSmall = 120
    TickEndSmall = 135
    NeedleStart = 22
    NeedleEnd = 76
    NeedleWidth = 4
    NeedleColour = clRed
    TextInterval = 2
    TextDPs = 0
    TickTextFont.Charset = DEFAULT_CHARSET
    TickTextFont.Color = clSilver
    TickTextFont.Height = -11
    TickTextFont.Name = 'MS Sans Serif'
    TickTextFont.Style = []
    TextDivide = 1000
    BandStart = 138
    BandEnd = 144
    BandColours = '$20FF20,$20FF20,$2020FF,$2020FF'
    BandIndices = '0,5500,6500,7200'
    PeakShow = True
    PeakPeriod = 5000
    TroughShow = True
    TroughPeriod = 2000
    Caption = 'Engine RPM'
    end
    object DashDtcText1: TDashDtcText
    Left = 8
    Top = 448
    Width = 625
    Height = 25
    Transparent = True
    Color = clBlack
    Font.Charset = DEFAULT_CHARSET
    Font.Color = clYellow
    Font.Height = -16
    Font.Name = 'MS Sans Serif'
    Font.Style = []
    UpdateInterval = 2
    UpdateOffset = 0
    CycleDelay = 3000
    end
    object DashText3: TDashText
    Left = 531
    Top = 41
    Width = 100
    Height = 24
    Transparent = False
    Caption = 'Overboost'
    Font.Charset = DEFAULT_CHARSET
    Font.Color = clWhite
    Font.Height = -16
    Font.Name = 'MS Sans Serif'
    Font.Style = [fsBold]
    end
    object DashText1: TDashText
    Left = 531
    Top = 102
    Width = 100
    Height = 21
    Transparent = False
    Caption = 'Rear Defog '
    Font.Charset = DEFAULT_CHARSET
    Font.Color = clWhite
    Font.Height = -16
    Font.Name = 'MS Sans Serif'
    Font.Style = [fsBold]
    end
    object SwitchDashGauge1: TSwitchDashGauge
    Left = 532
    Top = 68
    Width = 97
    Height = 33
    Transparent = False
    UpdateInterval = 1
    UpdateOffset = 0
    Shape = dsRoundedRectangle
    ColourTrue = clRed
    ColourFalse = clGray
    BitmapsUse = False
    SoundUse = False
    RedrawScreen = False
    DataSource = ddsECU
    DataChannelECUDigital = esDefogSw
    end
    object RoundGauge2: TRoundGauge
    Left = 480
    Top = 131
    Width = 151
    Height = 151
    Transparent = False
    Color = clBlack
    Font.Charset = DEFAULT_CHARSET
    Font.Color = clOlive
    Font.Height = -13
    Font.Name = 'MS Sans Serif'
    Font.Style = []
    UpdateInterval = 1
    UpdateOffset = 0
    DataSource = ddsECU
    DataChannelECUAnalogue = epMrp
    DataChannelExternal = lj0
    MinVal = -10
    MaxVal = 20
    AngleStart = -135
    AngleEnd = 135
    AxleRadius = 4
    AxleColour = clRed
    SmallTicks = 4
    TickCount = 7
    TickWidth = 2
    TickWidthSmall = 0
    TickColourSmall = clOlive
    TickColour = clRed
    TickTextRadius = 45
    TickStart = 58
    TickEnd = 70
    TickStartSmall = 63
    TickEndSmall = 70
    NeedleStart = 6
    NeedleEnd = 32
    NeedleWidth = 3
    NeedleColour = clYellow
    TextInterval = 1
    TextDPs = 1
    TickTextFont.Charset = DEFAULT_CHARSET
    TickTextFont.Color = clYellow
    TickTextFont.Height = -11
    TickTextFont.Name = 'MS Sans Serif'
    TickTextFont.Style = []
    TextDivide = 14.5
    BandStart = 30
    BandEnd = 30
    BandColours = '$FF2020,$FF2020,$2020FF,$2020FF'
    BandIndices = '0,50,90,110'
    PeakShow = False
    PeakPeriod = 2000
    TroughShow = False
    TroughPeriod = 2000
    Caption = 'Boost'
    end
    object AnalTextGauge1: TAnalTextGauge
    Left = 201
    Top = 392
    Width = 73
    Height = 25
    Transparent = False
    Color = clBlack
    Font.Charset = DEFAULT_CHARSET
    Font.Color = clOlive
    Font.Height = -19
    Font.Name = 'MS Sans Serif'
    Font.Style = []
    UpdateInterval = 1
    UpdateOffset = 0
    DataSource = ddsECU
    DataChannelECUAnalogue = epVehspd
    DataChannelExternal = lj0
    DecimalPlaces = 0
    TextDivide = 1
    end
    object AnalTextGauge2: TAnalTextGauge
    Left = 368
    Top = 56
    Width = 153
    Height = 25
    Transparent = False
    Font.Charset = DEFAULT_CHARSET
    Font.Color = clWindowText
    Font.Height = -16
    Font.Name = 'MS Sans Serif'
    Font.Style = [fsBold]
    UpdateInterval = 1
    UpdateOffset = 0
    DataSource = ddsECU
    DataChannelECUAnalogue = epMap
    DataChannelExternal = lj0
    DecimalPlaces = 2
    TextDivide = 14.5
    TextBefore = 'Boost: '
    TextAfter = ' Bar'
    end
    end

    Quote Originally Posted by rev2
    Try out skinbedder. IIRC it is designed to embed windows. Maybe i'll work with this.
    I will have a look at that now and thanks.

    {EDIT} I just tried to download it and the link is broken...

    http://www.whipflash.com/vamr/SkinBedder_v3.zip
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