New FM USB module, maybe good for our carputers?

**W3bMa5t3r** · 11-16-2006, 10:35 AM

I saw the HID device yesterday too after looking around. Here's what I got with USB Mon...

Vendor: 0x06e1 (ads technologies, inc.)
product id: 0xa155
manufacturer: 0x0409: ads tech

I attached a few seconds of the radio connected and then playing with the instantradio software, to the log file of the data package capture with usb mon. captured just the HID portion. hope this helps... cuz I have no clue about any of this.

cheers...

Here's the full subtree copy/paste for the device

Code:

USB Root Hub
    Port1: USB Composite Device
        Hub Power: Self Power
        Number of Ports: 2
        Power switching: None
        Compound device: No
        Over-current Protection: Individual
        Device Descriptor
            USB Version: 1.1
            Device Class: (0) Reserved (defined in Interface Descriptor)
            Device Subclass: 0
            Device Protocol: 0
            Max Packet Size: 0x40 (64) bytes
            Vendor: 0x06e1 (ADS Technologies, Inc.)
            Product ID: 0xa155
            Product Version: 0x0100
            Manufacturer: 1
                0x0409: ADS TECH
            Product: 2
                0x0409: ADS InstantFM Music
            SerialNumber: 0
            Number of Configurations: 1
        Connection Status: Device Connected
        Current Configuration: 1
        Device Bus Speed: Full
        Device Address: 0x02
        Number of Open Pipes: 2
        Configuration Descriptor (1)
            Total Length: 145 bytes
            Number of Interfaces: 3
            Configuration Value: 1
            Configuration: 0
            Attributes: 0x80
                Bus Powered
            Max Power: 0x32 (100 Ma)
        Interface Descriptor (0)
            Interface Number: 0
            Alternate Setting: 0x00
            Number of Endpoints: 0x00
            Interface Class: (1) Audio (Audio)
            Interface Subclass: 1 (Audio Control)
            Interface Protocol: 0
            Interface: 0
        Interface Descriptor (1)
            Interface Number: 1
            Alternate Setting: 0x00
            Number of Endpoints: 0x00
            Interface Class: (1) Audio (Audio)
            Interface Subclass: 2 (Audio Streaming)
            Interface Protocol: 0
            Interface: 0
        Interface Descriptor (1)
            Interface Number: 1
            Alternate Setting: 0x01
            Number of Endpoints: 0x01
            Interface Class: (1) Audio (Audio)
            Interface Subclass: 2 (Audio Streaming)
            Interface Protocol: 0
            Interface: 0
        Endpoint Descriptor (Addr: 0x83)
            Endpoint Address: 0x83, Input
            Transfer Type: Isochronous
            Max Packet Size: 0x0200 (512) bytes
            Interval: 0x0001
            Sync Address: 0x00
        Interface Descriptor (2)
            Interface Number: 2
            Alternate Setting: 0x00
            Number of Endpoints: 0x02
            Interface Class: (3) Human Interface (HID)
            Interface Subclass: 0
            Interface Protocol: 0
            Interface: 0
        HID Descriptor
            HID Version: 0x0111
            Country Code: 0x00 (0)
            Number of Descriptors: 1
                Type: 0x22, Length: 0x00cb bytes
        Endpoint Descriptor (Addr: 0x81)
            Endpoint Address: 0x81, Input
            Transfer Type: Interrupt
            Max Packet Size: 0x0040 (64) bytes
            Interval: 0x0a
        Endpoint Descriptor (Addr: 0x02)
            Endpoint Address: 0x02, Output
            Transfer Type: Interrupt
            Max Packet Size: 0x0040 (64) bytes
            Interval: 0x01

**afterdigital** · 11-16-2006, 12:42 PM

this may be the choice of radio! thanks W3bMa5t3r!

**jbolter** · 11-17-2006, 03:26 PM

alright, i tried my instantFM in the car on the way to work this morning. it worked pretty well with the included retractable antenna. under a tunnel it cut out and my head unit fm worked fine. i think if i can adapt the connection to use my car's antenna i can get some better performance. i'm going to try to work on that this weekend. anyone have any luck getting the SDK yet so we can get this working in a front end?

**jbolter** · 11-21-2006, 05:57 PM

i just received the sdk from ads. i'm not a very experienced coder but i'm going to look through it all tonight. what would we need to do to make this work with RR or CF?

**FMode** · 12-07-2006, 01:46 PM

sorry I lost this thread....

I remember as my amazon order (I just ordered because I was just curiously) with the ADSTech arrived...

I opened it and it is a 99% copy of the Silabs PCB

!

So If you like to waste your time go ahead and code a driver.

Or just contact the Silabs driver guys...

and:
Why not just coding a driver for every frontend ?

**jbolter** · 12-08-2006, 02:31 PM

Originally Posted by FMode

sorry I lost this thread....

I remember as my amazon order (I just ordered because I was just curiously) with the ADSTech arrived...

I opened it and it is a 99% copy of the Silabs PCB

!

So If you like to waste your time go ahead and code a driver.

Or just contact the Silabs driver guys...

and:
Why not just coding a driver for every frontend ?

obviously nobody likes to waste their time. who are the "silabs driver guys" that i should contact? and by getting their driver, how should i use it in a front end? could you provide more information?

**FMode** · 12-11-2006, 07:16 AM

Originally Posted by jbolter

obviously nobody likes to waste their time.

hmm.... I don't think so

if I see what is done sometimes in the carpc community !

Originally Posted by jbolter

who are the "silabs driver guys" that i should contact?

search for "Silabs" in this forum...

Originally Posted by jbolter

and by getting their driver, how should i use it in a front end? could you provide more information?

You get the "point" of my software (FMRadioHAL) !
This is crapped in nearly all Frontends expect Centrafuse and here the radio driver interface is somewhat under development and nearly 20% (IMHO) finished.

(and this is certainly also caused by the users of the Frontends asking can "car-xyz support my ding-ding-radio" instead of looking at MS Office realizing that it uses drivers to access printers and then "kicking" for the developer (expect RR) - "use a driver to access the radio!"
and see where we are discussing...

)

**jbolter** · 12-11-2006, 01:25 PM

Originally Posted by FMode

hmm.... I don't think so

if I see what is done sometimes in the carpc community !

search for "Silabs" in this forum...

You get the "point" of my software (FMRadioHAL) !
This is crapped in nearly all Frontends expect Centrafuse and here the radio driver interface is somewhat under development and nearly 20% (IMHO) finished.

(and this is certainly also caused by the users of the Frontends asking can "car-xyz support my ding-ding-radio" instead of looking at MS Office realizing that it uses drivers to access printers and then "kicking" for the developer (expect RR) - "use a driver to access the radio!"
and see where we are discussing...

)

so is the goal for me to get the "point" of your software? because i get the point, but i'm still not sure how that helps me get my ADS radio working in a front end...

**mrWRX** · 12-11-2006, 03:20 PM

The radio software that came with ADS uses a customizable skin. You can edit this skin using Active Skin 4.x. I think this software has been discontinued, so it was hard to get it, but I eventually got the shareware version.

I was also able to embed the radio app in RR using Skinbedder .

Now, all I have to do is to create a skin that goes along with my RR skin. This way, you get the RDS information(song title/artist/station id, etc) as well that Radiator does not support.

I didn't notice anything when I attached it to my laptop, but when I connected it to a 2.1 setup , I noticed a lot of popping noise from the radio not constantly, but from time to time.

**FMode** · 12-12-2006, 03:34 AM

Originally Posted by jbolter

so is the goal for me to get the "point" of your software? because i get the point, but i'm still not sure how that helps me get my ADS radio working in a front end...

Where is my posting ???

okay again:
Ask the Silabs developers if they can move the vendor and product id from "hardcoded constant" to a file/registry (which is loaded at startup).

Get their work and change Vendor to 0x06e1 and Product ID to 0xa155 and start...

I can also have a quick look at the sources (VB6 and .NET only) if I got them...
I have a HQCT, Silabs and a ADSTech...
(sorry for no more help but HQCT is first)