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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonicxtacy02 View Post
    i took a sec to run the plugin and it worked pretty darn well! I do have a question though. With MAF= False the maf label displays data, but with maf = True the label stays at 0. I'm not sure if the car has a MAF or not but the MAP label is populating so i'm assuming not. All other sensors that work with scantool.net work with this plugin. Cant wait to see how accurate the MPG turns out. Great work.
    If you get a 0 with MAF=True then you do not have a MAF sensor. When set to false the plugin uses MAP and some other parameters to calculate a simulated MAF sensor. This method is slightly less accurate than having a physical MAF sensor so I've added in the adjust capability to adjust the VE (Volumetric Efficiency) after a fill-up to get things more accurate.

    My earlier tests over the summer showed that after a couple fill-ups I was starting to get fairly accurate numbers.

    I'm playing around with polling for supported PIDs so I can make the MAF decisions automatically without user input, just haven't gotten it figured out yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mezz64 View Post
    No other ReturnIndicator routines are present, only other indicator routine is the click one and it's empty.

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    Public Sub IndicatorClick(IND As String)
    
       'Nothing
    
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    NiMar, I wonder if it has something to do with your use of the "," instead of the "."? I'm not sure if that impacts the calculations or just the display. I'll look into it and see what I can find out.
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    1. Good to know!
    2. Are you using a new RR build?
    I'm using 13 december 2007 RR build
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    3. This might have something to do with the "," again. I tested all gauges for both english and metric and they seemed to work fine. It would be great if someone using english settings could report their findings on this.
    4. Again, I think it's the ",". In order for the flash to work I have to strip off the units and round the number, i think with a comma instead of a period the flash round function fails.
    Yes maybe... i've never seen floating numbers on flash gauges - is there can be floating numbers? or only integers?
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    5. Was this with the flash gauges or just in general?

    As for the suggestions:
    1. Changeable colors more than likely won't be happening, at least not for this skin. As I mentioned in my early post the flash was just a proof of concept, my design efforts are going towards my own skin at the moment.
    2. I'm pulling PID's every 1/4th of a second right now, any faster and I get blank data. You should notice a speed increase if you turn off ExtraOBD and only pull the values needed for fuel efficiency calculation.
    oh this mean if I pull 4 values - it will take 1 second?
    it's not so fast
    can you communicate with ELM 327 on 38400 speed, instead of 9600?
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    3. Should be able to make that an ini option. I'll put it in the next release.

    Thanks for the comments!
    Thanks!
    Waiting for new release!

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    You're indicator problems are because you're using an older RR build without ReturnIndicatorEX function. I'm using the new functions to ensure compatibility with other plugins. An update to the latest RR release (Guino just put out a new one today!) should fix that issue.

    Still not real sure on the gauges. I'm using an emulator for testing so I don't have access to dynamic data. Maybe something gets messed up when the values change more often. I can only rely on outside testing to solve this issue at this point.

    When I say 1/4sec, i mean that the timer interval to send the commands is 250ms. So every 250ms I send all the PID requests to the ELM. I have no control over how long it takes to get back to me except for the baud rate. I tested out 38400 with my emulator and things were noticeably faster. Not sure if the same results will be evident with actual hardware though. I'm going to see if I can make the baud specifiable in the ini so it can be adjusted by the end-user.

    Look for an updated release tomorrow sometime hopefully.

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    Hmm, I can't seem to get this to work on my setup with XP. When I open the Carwings skin, I am getting all zero in the fields. Here's the step I took to install it. I copied the COM files to windows/system32. Then I copied the obdmpg dll and ini to RR root and registered the file. And added the started plugin command x,obdmpg to menu.skin.

    I download the .exe debug application and am getting "ELM not reponding"
    I tried changing the port number from 1 to 8. Each port is giving me the same error above. I have the ScanTool software that came with it. The ScanTool is working fine and am getting values from it. Just can seem to get it working with the obdmpg.exe application. Has anyone ran into this problem?

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    Quote Originally Posted by colosports View Post
    Hmm, I can't seem to get this to work on my setup with XP. When I open the Carwings skin, I am getting all zero in the fields. Here's the step I took to install it. I copied the COM files to windows/system32. Then I copied the obdmpg dll and ini to RR root and registered the file. And added the started plugin command x,obdmpg to menu.skin.

    I download the .exe debug application and am getting "ELM not reponding"
    I tried changing the port number from 1 to 8. Each port is giving me the same error above. I have the ScanTool software that came with it. The ScanTool is working fine and am getting values from it. Just can seem to get it working with the obdmpg.exe application. Has anyone ran into this problem?
    If it's not responding then it's not connected. Are you sure you're ELM is on a port in the 1-8 range? Most people who have had connection problems have solved them by moving the elm to a lower port, double digit ports will not work.

    Sorry I'm a little delayed on the update guys, I've been having a busy week. I'll try and get it up as soon as I can.

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    Unfortunately I'm not going to be able to post an updated version until 11/30 at the earliest. I'm away from my main machine for thanksgiving week and the hard drive in my travel laptop decided to bite the bullet last night, leaving me without the latest code and without a working development machine.

    I'll post when I update it as usual just don't expect it for a little while.

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    It appears on my system that the trip odometer is reading higher than my car's odometer... My trip to work is only about 15 miles and it read almost 30 this morning. What might be causing this? The MPG figures looked accurate based on what I've calculated by hand in the past...

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    is it possible your trip meter didnt reset to 0 .. would explain the duplicating (15 x 2) I've noticed this sometimes as well. I've also noticed the MPG being calculated while the vehicle wasnt running. If the OBD device is not connected there should be no further calculation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mezz64 View Post
    If it's not responding then it's not connected. Are you sure you're ELM is on a port in the 1-8 range? Most people who have had connection problems have solved them by moving the elm to a lower port, double digit ports will not work.

    Sorry I'm a little delayed on the update guys, I've been having a busy week. I'll try and get it up as soon as I can.
    I'll post exactaly the same problem as colosports posted. Im having the same problem and using com port #4. Everything works fine on this port with scantool s/w and Im sure my device is elm327 based.
    It shows only 0s on the obdmpg plugin.
    What could be happening?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonicxtacy02 View Post
    is it possible your trip meter didnt reset to 0 .. would explain the duplicating (15 x 2) I've noticed this sometimes as well. I've also noticed the MPG being calculated while the vehicle wasnt running. If the OBD device is not connected there should be no further calculation.
    I watched the trip odometer on RR, and the tenths of miles were going by way too fast. I don't know if that helps at all...

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