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Thread: Vag-Scope Heads Up Display / Front End

  1. #51
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    Vag-Com Vs Vag-Can

    Hi,
    Not sure if this is really relevent i Have A Skoda Octavia (Yes I do have a Merc and my other car is a Skoda )
    And this uses Vag-Can instead of Vag-Com. is it easy to convert your app to Can?
    Do you have any knowledge on the diffrences as i believe it is very much like the BMW system.
    Good work on you work so far
    Thanks
    Terry

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    My system requires that you use vag-com. I believe vag-com is able to work with can.

    I suggest getting the source code and investigating which portions of vag-com are used (01-engine and measuring blocks) and verify that all those are available. If they are you should be able to use vag-com to do everything and change my code to allow it to use the correct measuring blocks if they are different.

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    Alright, I have a known bug. It's a minor (but a bit annoying) bug, I need two things from those using this. The first is: I need to know if this happens to others, I cannot replicate it on my dev system. Also: I need time. I wont be able to fix this for a while so you're going to have to deal with it

    Basically what happens is if you go to the vag-screen before you have reached the block read screen (the last screen) then the program will hang and it won't go to that screen. I glanced at the code and found no reason why, i don't know when I will have time to work on it. The work around is to just not click on the "vag-scope" button in roadrunner until the program is reading in data from vag-com.

    Also, for some reason the program is starting really late. I believe this is a problem related to when roadrunner actually starts the automation program. Can anyone weigh in on how to get roadrunner to run the automation at the beginning of its startup routine rather than the end? It would be best if it could be one of the first things run on load.

    Finally, Does anyone now how to use C# to force a program to minimize? Those last two windows stay on top because they don't have a minimize button that I can push. So any ideas on that would be welcomed.

    Anyway, like I said, minor annoyances but I think fixing them could give this a much more "finished" feel and I could then release it elsewhere as well.

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    Just found this, just what I was looking for last year. Good work.

    Which version of Vag Com is your ap written for, 409.1?

    Unfortunatly things move on and I've moved on from RR onto FreeICE, so need to use the stand alone version.

    What do I have to do to the stand alone version to update it (not done any software coding for years)?
    I'm assuming I need to install the latest RR version & then do some copy/paste tasks to update the files in the SA version, or is it a bit more involved than that?

    Also: When I tried to embed VAGCom last year I had some success but couldn't embed it repeatedly, sometime it worked sometimes it didn't. Do you know the window name of the main application?

    If I can get this working I can finaly dump explorer as shell
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    looks good.

    What do I have to do to update the standalone version? Sorry for the noob question. ta
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gajjii View Post
    looks good.

    What do I have to do to update the standalone version? Sorry for the noob question. ta
    Unfortunately, updating it won't just be a copy and paste thing.

    You will need to grab the source code for both versions. Basically, when I converted the code from the standalone to Roadrunner, I just coppied all the code on the form and moved it to the app, I then took every location that I updated a label and changed it to update roadrunner. You will need to do the opposite. You will need to take the code from the RoadRunner app, and copy it to the form code on the standalone. I would do this one line at a time because the code is no longer really designed to run in a form so you will have to make sure each line is designed to work with the form.

    If you understand the code, this will take you less than an hour. I would recommend looking at the code for each application and making sure you understand it, then moving the code across

    Sorry for not doing it myself, but it would just take too much of my time to maintain the code between both apps

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    The window name changes with the version.

    There is a tool that comes with visual studio that is called

    It will list all windows with their full window name. You can use this to get the window name. I have not had a lot of luck with embedding in general. Currently my front end just runs vag-com itself if you tell it to start.

    The vag-scope mod actually automates the start-up of vag-com and does all the clicking for you. Coding it will require understanding the code. When I first branched it would have just been copy and paste. I've done so many bug fixes in the other version now tho that you will have to work with it to make it work in the standalone. I don't think the code is too hard to understand. The main difference between the standalone and the current code is that I added a method to do all of the clicking on vag-com to get it started rather than doing it all in the same method and with the standalone a method is called every 250 ms whereas with the RR one there is just a while loop. Also, the RR one has a config file that you may want to utilize that I added after I switched to RR.

    Basically, when the form starts up you will want to call the method I added. and then you want to take all of the code in the while loop and put it in the method that is called for the form.

    It should be easy to understand once you look at it for a bit.

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    SOFTWARE UPDATE!

    ok, this is kinda an exciting one. I have fixed the mpg bug!!

    MPG is now calculated using the amount of fuel you have consumed and distance you have traveled. This means that it SHOULD be completely accurate. I will be watching it over the next couple weeks to make sure. Right now it is still averaged over the last ten minutes...but I can make it average it over the entire trip. I am indifferent on which way, I will start a poll and take recommendations here. Convince me of which is better

    Anyway, files 2 and 3 have been updated. All you need to do to update is download the install (link 2), uninstall the old vagscopemod-roadrunner using add/remove programs, and install the new one that you downloaded.

    Feedback is always welcomed. Thanks all.

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    I have a question about your software. I was able to get the program running but when you click on vagscope mod it errors out. So I went to the source (the .exe for the RR vag mod) and it errors out also. It just says it has encountered a problem and needs to close. I have tried this while vag com is open too. any hints? thanks in advance for your time

    Josh

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    Quote Originally Posted by vwjet2001 View Post
    I have a question about your software. I was able to get the program running but when you click on vagscope mod it errors out. So I went to the source (the .exe for the RR vag mod) and it errors out also. It just says it has encountered a problem and needs to close. I have tried this while vag com is open too. any hints? thanks in advance for your time

    Josh
    You should be running it from roadrunner. Are you using roadrunner or trying to run the .exe directly?

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