RRVoiceControl-Beta Complete: Check Released Plugins Section

**Jebus** · 07-09-2009, 12:44 AM

Just before you write the .ini use this:
SongTitle = Replace (SongTitle , "-", "")
That will replace any hyphens with nothing.

LOL, Thank's John, I'm pretty familiar with VB's functions

As for numbers, they are no problem with with VR with numbers. You can for instance have:
o I 8 1 2
Or:
Oh I ate one two
and both will work as far as voice recognition.

I am using VR Command and Control not Dictation (except with the PreCommand, It is Dictation)

Try this, Add two commands to Songs.ini with the ini editor on the settings form. Doesnt matter under what section.

For example:
[Eagles]
Play Wasted Time 1=SETLIST;1||PLEXEC
Play Victim Of Love Two=SETLIST;2||PLEXEC
Load that Artist and Try to Play each Song
You will never get it to recognize the first one
The second one will be easy.
Try it and let me know what your findings are.
By the way, did the Integer to Long change allow it to complete the music scan?

drewbp,

Okay so I Understand your responses about exotic stuff, which is fine with me as I have it working 98% except when volume goes to zero and wont move.

I believe it is because you changed the CurrentVolume ini variable...

Okay so I figured this out for myself. In the RRVoiceControl.ini I changed the currentvolume to CurrentVolume=SETVAR in the paths section and I now can say Windows Open and it will set up my GPS volume settings for that, also works for Windows Closed.

That was not meant to be changed. It is for the automatic volume lowering, when triggering from a skin. RRVoiceControl needs this to set the volume back to current level.

The bug I have found has to do with the number of songs also, but in my case albums. My structure is not coming up with the load artists. It is just coming up with albums. But once it gets to say 500 albums, it does not add any more into the .exe window. I run out in the "S" artists and cant get any albums beyond that.

How many songs do you have? How many Albums? Does RRVoiceControl create the Music.ini and Songs.ini completly?

I will look into the limitations of that listbox. It is a custom control.

Also, anyone else adding their own custom commands:

I noticed that you have to use two words for the command. For instance just "Weather" will not work, but "Display Weather" will.

This is probably due to some code splitting the phrase apart looking for the "load" or "select" commands. If it is a single word, it can not split it, and you will get an out of bounds error dialog.

John,
You are correct on the Two words, although It was meant to be Select Weather, To list skin specific commands for VR.

Check the Very first Post or the readme file for the intended format.

I think that I need to explain that part more in the first post and the readme.
And I take it that the Integer to Long Worked. Can't help if I don't get feedback!

...JJG

**drewbp** · 07-09-2009, 01:09 AM

I cant live without the GPS speed controlled volume so I'll live with what I have right now. The VR is working pretty good even with music playing.

The song.ini and music.ini are building complete.

I have 6344 songs from 509 albums from approx 200 artists.

I have counted and about 425 albums show up in the commands window of the .exe.

There was no change with the new download, but did not expect there to be as the .ini's created correctly.

**JohnWPB** · 07-09-2009, 02:43 AM

Hmmm that is very strange that the numbers can not be dictated. I have used many VR apps, and never saw this limitation.

For instance, My home automation program uses MS voice recognition, and I can say "Turn off the desk lamp in 38 minutes" and it recognizes it just fine. I know there are probably no string replaces, as you can dictate very large numbers. Every now and then I leave the mic open, and it will false recognize and spew out "Shall I turn off the porch light in 3,467 hours?" LOL

The only thing I could suggest is like above, and just add the string replace for -'s and all numbers 0-9 for the generated VR phrase.

As for changing the VR commands, I am picky that way

I had to write some pretty big scripts for my home automation VR, as the program expected some of the stuff in a weird format. "Living room lights Off" for instance, I changed it to be able to say "Turn off the living room lights"

To me select pause is just unnatural to say, as well as a few other things, so I changed them up

I am not sure why you used the word "select" ni front of everything. This really will not increase the accuracy in the slightest. The reason being, is "select" is prefixed to everything, so the only difference is the 2nd word. Thus setting the command to just the 2nd word alone would be exactly the same recognition accuracy.

So, I decided to mix it up a little bit to reduce false recognitions, improve the accuracy, and use more conversational speech.

"Pause Playback" ---vs---"Select pause"
"Current Weather"---vs---"Select weather"
"Five Day Forecast" ---vs---"Select five day"
"H D Radio"---vs---"Select radio"
"Main Menu"---vs---"Select menu"
"Audio Player"---vs---"Select audio"
"Play Disk 1"---vs--- "Select CD One"

**Jebus** · 07-09-2009, 09:10 AM

John,
You are as stubborn as Blue and I

Hmmm that is very strange that the numbers can not be dictated. I have used many VR apps, and never saw this limitation

.

I Repeat, It is NOT Dictation, It is Command and Control. Google it...
Dictation is freeform recognition of words, such as to write a letter.
Command and Control is presenting a predefined set of words to recognize against, thereby increasing accuracy.

By switching those precommand words you are defeating some of the internal structure of the application.
Did you read the first post...

...JJG

**Sonicxtacy02** · 07-09-2009, 09:28 AM

i get some funky focus issues from this app. I'll speak a command and RR will "appear" to stay in focus but i lose the ability to use gestures in the like. When i hit alt/tab the voice app shows in front of RR. I suppose adding a GETFOCUS command to each command set will fix that though.

I'm so getting an error message about once every 10 voice commands. It says:

Error when rebuilding dynamic list grammar box: -2147220453

Lastly, is there anyway to you can create a setting to hide the app to the task bar at launch. It always is brought up in front of RR when started.

**Blue ZX3** · 07-09-2009, 11:39 AM

John,
You are as stubborn as Blue and I

Being stubborn is not all that bad really...

Originally Posted by Sonicxtacy02

i get some funky focus issues from this app. I'll speak a command and RR will "appear" to stay in focus but i lose the ability to use gestures in the like. When i hit alt/tab the voice app shows in front of RR. I suppose adding a GETFOCUS command to each command set will fix that though.

I'm so getting an error message about once every 10 voice commands. It says:

Error when rebuilding dynamic list grammar box: -2147220453

Lastly, is there anyway to you can create a setting to hide the app to the task bar at launch. It always is brought up in front of RR when started.

I too have gotten that "Error when rebuilding dynamic list grammar box: -2147220453" message box.

Other small things I found slightly annoying..sorry

#1 Having only to click the "Hide" menu on the settings form to hide it, should be able to also do the same when using the close window button(top right)

#2 Make the list of commands a single column instead of mashed together multi columns, most of the bigger commands do not fit in that small column area and run into the list item to the right.

I'd also like to know who else you had test this as you were in the process of creating it? I'm only asking b/c I too started down this road when I first started RRMedia. As soon as I had something working I gave it to john for feedback before I wrote the whole app only to find out that it was not as user friendly as I thought, and b/c of that, I think that all those a many hrs voicing back and forth with john just about every night, pretty much shows time invested in early feedback.

We really are not trying to dictate how your program works, you have put a huge effort into getting this to work fluidly and we are just trying help polish it to its full potential...

**JohnWPB** · 07-09-2009, 02:52 PM

Originally Posted by Jebus

John,
You are as stubborn as Blue and I

Hehhe I am not trying to be stubborn, in any way, I honestly am just trying to help and offer feedback in any way that I can, as this is an AMAZING app! Something RR has needed for a very long time. RR has had different voice app's, 3 that I can think of, one of which is internal. However, nothing to this point even comes close to letting you control music though. This app is aproaching the cababilities of Ford Sync

I Repeat, It is NOT Dictation, It is Command and Control. Google it...

I totally understand that this is not dictation. My Home Automation is not dictation either. Using dictation would make it about 99% less accurate.

I understand that when you scan the song names, you are building the grammar file from that. What I dont get, is why MS would allow words and sounds to be built into a grimmer file, but not numbers. But with this limititation, all that can be done is just work around it.

Again the solution is pretty easy for 80% of songs would be to just do the string replace for the grammer file for songs. Replace 1 with One, 2 with Two, 3 with Three ect. So it's a matter of read the song name, string replace it, then write the string replaced as the grammer section, and the non string replaced as the actual path / command to fire.

By switching those pre-command words you are defeating some of the internal structure of the application.
Did you read the first post...

I am actually leaving all of the "Select" commands in place, and just adding more conversational English phrases at the bottom of the ini. This way you can say "Select Pause" OR you can say "Pause Playback"

As Blue mentioned, you never know how well the app is going to work, and how its to work best till everyone keys in hahah. When I first released the original DFX skin, I thought I nailed it.... I worked for literally months insuring it was as perfect as it could be. When I released it, the comments & bugs started pouring in! Why didnt you do this or that, why are'nt the main buttons in the same place on all the screens.. ect ect... Thus the skin is now on version 4

Now when I think I have "Nailed it" I put it into beta with a limited number of more advanced users to run it through it's paces (Blue, Liquid Smoke, Sonic, Elcamino ect), fix their recomendations, bugs and such before I release it. Even then, people will still find bugs and problems when you open it up to thousands of users

Again, please do not be discouraged, this is one of the best additions to RR that has come along in a very long time!

**JohnWPB** · 07-09-2009, 03:18 PM

Oh, Sorry about not posting the results of the scan over 32,000 songs!

I cant scan them, as when I choose my root MP3 folder (H:\MP3), it goes in there, then into the first folder (ABBA) grabs the 2 albums from in that folder, and then does not go back up a directory to continue with the rest of the artist folders. It then for some reason completely jumps out of the H:\MP3 path I have set, and jumps to my C: drive and grabs all sorts of random stuff from the desktop, MSN folder, Yahoo Folder, Windows System32 folder ect. Here is the Music.ini:

[Artists]
Load ABBAGold=ABBAGold
Load ABBARemixes=ABBARemixes
Load Documents and SettingsJohnDesktopDigitalFX=Documents and SettingsJohnDesktopDigitalFX
Load Documents and SettingsJohnDesktopDigitalFXAll Lyrics StuffLyric Parser Scripts=Documents and SettingsJohnDesktopDigitalFXAll Lyrics StuffLyric Parser Scripts
Load Documents and SettingsJohnDesktopDigitalFXAll Lyrics StuffTemp ReadArtist=Documents and SettingsJohnDesktopDigitalFXAll Lyrics StuffTemp ReadArtist
Load Documents and SettingsJohnDesktopDigitalFXAll Lyrics StuffTempMP3=Documents and SettingsJohnDesktopDigitalFXAll Lyrics StuffTempMP3
Load Documents and SettingsJohnDesktopDigitalFXDigitalFX InnovatekScriptsCNN-News=Documents and SettingsJohnDesktopDigitalFXDigitalFX InnovatekScriptsCNN-News
Load Documents and SettingsJohnDesktopDigitalFXPlay Intro When RR Starts=Documents and SettingsJohnDesktopDigitalFXPlay Intro When RR Starts
Load Documents and SettingsJohnDesktopDigitalFXTestWritingTags=Docume nts and SettingsJohnDesktopDigitalFXTestWritingTags
Load Documents and SettingsJohnDesktopDownloads=Documents and SettingsJohnDesktopDownloads
Load Program FilesCyberLinkPowerDVD9RemixRemix Tourcommon=Program FilesCyberLinkPowerDVD9RemixRemix Tourcommon
Load Program FilesHomeSeerhtmlSlimServerSERVERHTMLENHTML=Progra m FilesHomeSeerhtmlSlimServerSERVERHTMLENHTML
Load Program FilesHomeSeerhtmlTemp=Program FilesHomeSeerhtmlTemp
Load Program FilesHomeSeerhtmlVTEMP=Program FilesHomeSeerhtmlVTEMP
Load Program FilesHomeSeerMESSAGES=Program FilesHomeSeerMESSAGES
Load Program FilesMSN Messenger=Program FilesMSN Messenger
Load Program FilesRoad RunnerskinsDFX Release BuildScriptsCNN-News=Program FilesRoad RunnerskinsDFX Release BuildScriptsCNN-News
Load Program FilesRoad RunnerskinsDigitalFX 3.0ScriptsCNN-News=Program FilesRoad RunnerskinsDigitalFX 3.0ScriptsCNN-News
Load Program FilesRoad RunnerskinsDigitalFX 5.0ScriptsCNN-News=Program FilesRoad RunnerskinsDigitalFX 5.0ScriptsCNN-News
Load Program FilesRoad RunnerskinsInnovatekScriptsCNN-News=Program FilesRoad RunnerskinsInnovatekScriptsCNN-News
Load Program FilesSWiSHmaxsamplesTutorials=Program FilesSWiSHmaxsamplesTutorials
Load Program FilesWinamp=Program FilesWinamp
Load Program FilesYahoo!MessengerMediamisc=Program FilesYahoo!MessengerMediamisc
Load WINDOWSsystem32oobeimages=WINDOWSsystem32oobeimage s
[Settings]
MusicCmdStatus=You Have 369 Voice Command Songs!

I have no way of copying the music to my desktop / C: drive so it can be scanned, as I only have 20 Gigs partitioned for the OS. All other files are kept on different drives.

I am using the latest update to the files in the first post. (Downloaded just before I posted this.)

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**Blue ZX3** · 07-09-2009, 04:17 PM

I think there must be something wrong with the recursive file searching he/you are using. Did you try and make one or did you search the web for examples and go from there. The latter is what i have used as i did try to create my own and was a big waste of time on something that has more than enought code snippets avail...

**JohnWPB** · 07-09-2009, 04:44 PM

It's not an error with the recursive code, as it was not intended to go 3 levels deep. Just into each artist folder and get the songs in that folder. That's why he mentioned he pulled all his songs from the albums folders and put them up one level into the artist folder. The main problem with this though, is you would only have one folder.jpg for each artist, thus not be able to use any of the cover art browsers ect.

What is strange though, is how it is jumping to the C: Drive and finding all sorts of stuff there. Most are not mp3's at all.

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