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    LSX Scripts

    Ive been experimenting and messing around with Liquid Smokes latest skin LSX for about a week and I love the look/feel and how customizable it is. One thing I cant seem to figure out though is what exactly the scripts are for and how are theyre used. Maybe I missed somthing in LS's massive LSX release thread but could someone enlighten me?
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    hum,
    they are used for a number of things.
    I should of gave a run down on what all of them do, so i guess ill do it here.

    In LSTOOLS\SCRIPTS youll find a bunch of .au3 files and .exe files. The .exe files are just compiled versions of the scripts, RR itself dosent use any of the .au3 files. They are included incase anyone wants to edit any of the scripts and recompile. All of the ones that are named, AUDIO, DVD,VIDEO etc, on do one thing. They take you to the said screen, so if you run AUDIO.exe it will take you to the audio screen. These scripts are even actually used by RR, but are included to be used to control RR from a external app launcher Object Dock, you;ll also see a set of .png files that match the icons on the main menu to also use with Object dock. What this gives you is a starting point to basicly be able to navigate to ANY screen in RR from ANY screen without having to go back to the main menu. This is if you use object dock in your car. I use it and find it very helpfull and recommend it to everyone for a number of things. I plan to release a object dock skin install that automates objectdock using the said .exe and png files, but if you use object dock allready you should know how to link up the files with your dock.

    in LSTOOLS\CLICKSOUNDS you'll find the files used for clicksound support that was formaly used in LS3.0 but is currently disabled in LSX. The files are included incase anyone wanted to still use them. In an update i plan to make it an option you can toggle on and off via ExecTBL.ini

    in LSTOOLS\LINE you will find the LINE TOGGLE tools created by Frodo!
    This is being used in the audio player, the button directly to the right of the phone bat meter. What its usefull for is if you have anything hooked up to the line in on your computer you can configure the line tools to mute and unmute a series of lines with one click. So if you wanted to unmute your line in, and also mute the wave or send a pause to RR you can do this, from inside the skin or externaly outside of RR.

    in LSTOOLS\WEATHERSCRIPTS you will find the script im using (created by Chuck, modified by me) to display weather sat images. STILL IN BETA.
    If you click "The Weather Channel" logo in the weather screen, bottom right corner, it will load sat weather images. This does require some editing of the script based on your local and what url you want to pull the images from for your area. The default is USA.

    in LSTOOLS\SB2.9 you will find the included version of SKINBedder 2.99999 that is used for GPS if you are using iGuidance.

    in LSTOOLS\IG_2.1NA you will find something that i dont really want to comment on here. If you know what it is and its usefull for you then use it. But read the README.txt file that is found in that same dir. HINT: this is GPS related.


    that should be about it.
    Note, most if not all of these things are OPTIONAL and used to make things either more customizeable or easier. If you run into any problems with my skin, the first thing i will ask you is if the LSTOOLS folder is located in the root of RR install.
    That folder is the default place i use for any external tools,scripts etc that my skin is or will be using.

    ill add this info to the post for the skin.
    I still havent added the HOW TO that i wanted , just havent had the time.
    If you have any problems or questions feel free to PM me or just post a thread here and put LSX in the title and im sure to reply to it.

    this is a screen shot of the Object Dock and also a preview of the new speedo for GPS that will be included in a update this weekend.
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    Thx LS. First, I have to say that your skin is the deciding factor IMO that makes RR hands down the best frontend. (Im a button pushing customizer ) It took me a minute to realize exactly what the scripts where and how to use them.

    Now my next question is how to make the practical or useable. Is there a way to get back to the 'main menu' type screen that you have in the LSX folder or would have to create my own button links in every window? Matter of fact without making changes to the files is that window even accessisble by default? What im getting at is it absolutely nessecary to use Object Dock as I would rather not download/buy or install another app on my carPC. Plus I think that for the sake of slimming down installs and streamlining the speed factor it would be better to have an "always on" section of the screen (i.e. bottom right corner) that would open up a always on top till button selected menu. If you do not plan on supporting this is it possible for me to do it myself?

    One more thing, after pushing the 'EXIT_FS' script I noticed that a transparent window pops up. That is extra cool, but again how can it be used in a practical manner. I would like to use the transparent icons in my skin, or better yet, a transparent 'on top' menu that can be activated from any screen. Similiar to what was mentioned above.

    Off Topic: Any chance of getting a blue based LSX skin or should anticipate the release of your next skin?

    Also I checked out the Auto-It site. I may get into it myself and see what I come up with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Osiris
    Thx LS. First, I have to say that your skin is the deciding factor IMO that makes RR hands down the best frontend. (Im a button pushing customizer ) It took me a minute to realize exactly what the scripts where and how to use them.

    Now my next question is how to make the practical or useable. Is there a way to get back to the 'main menu' type screen that you have in the LSX folder or would have to create my own button links in every window? Matter of fact without making changes to the files is that window even accessisble by default? What im getting at is it absolutely nessecary to use Object Dock as I would rather not download/buy or install another app on my carPC. Plus I think that for the sake of slimming down installs and streamlining the speed factor it would be better to have an "always on" section of the screen (i.e. bottom right corner) that would open up a always on top till button selected menu. If you do not plan on supporting this is it possible for me to do it myself?

    One more thing, after pushing the 'EXIT_FS' script I noticed that a transparent window pops up. That is extra cool, but again how can it be used in a practical manner. I would like to use the transparent icons in my skin, or better yet, a transparent 'on top' menu that can be activated from any screen. Similiar to what was mentioned above.

    Off Topic: Any chance of getting a blue based LSX skin or should anticipate the release of your next skin?

    Also I checked out the Auto-It site. I may get into it myself and see what I come up with.
    ok, where to start.
    lets see.

    the main menu(first screen you see when you launch RR) is allways available by clicking the arrow in the bottom left corner of the skin on every screen. Unless you are talking about another menu im not really following you there.

    the use of object dock is completely 100% optional and the skin isnt dependant on it being present at all. The scripts for object dock are just that, scripts for object dock, for those that do use it. I use it and find it a great replacement for the windows task bar, even more so in a car environment as you can make the icons as big as you want, even the tray icons, which are extremly hard to click on a 7in screen.

    as for a pop up menu that you can get to from anyscreen, this is something actually that i started on, but didnt finish, but i do plan to finish at some point. Im not sure if the files i used when i started it are included in the skin or not, i think i deleted them. But.... that is the soul purpose of the scripts for object dock, and also the support for MouseWheelInput. Both of these are ment to be pop up windows you can get to from any screen to go to any screen.
    Im considering removeing support for MouseWheelInput and replaceing it with pop up screen as you mention.

    as for the EXIT_FS script, this isnt ment to be used outside of RR. To understand the usefullness of this script, you have to go to the GPS screens.
    How it works is, when your inside the GPS screen (using iGuidance) there is a "FS" button (fullscreen) that will make your GPS map go fullscreen and remove all RR buttons and controls so the GPS screen looks more OEM. that pop up button that is transparent with the arrow, takes you back to RR. Otherwise you would be stuck on that screen as there arent any RR buttons.


    as for a blue based verson of LSX. ya know, i really would like to make a blue version. From the very start i entended on making various color versions. But, to be honest, its way too much work to go back now and change colors. So you probably should wait for the next skin, as it shouldnt be as hard to change colors. Im setting up the source files to have multiple colors as i work.
    The next skin is very OEMish with elements from LSX mixed in.

    also if you havent checked, there is a new release of LSX i uploaded last night.
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    By "main menu", I meant the one labeled 'MENU_ON' and 'MENU_OFF' as jpegs in the LSX folder. As far as Object Dock goes, I understand what you mean by the usefuleness of it, but I personally can't justify buying that program or wanting to install it on top of an allready full install. I just rather not have any more apps running then I do or spending any more money for that matter.

    From looking at the scripts, I dont see how they are Object Dock dependant. What I'm getting at is can I use the scripts in other ways such as creating a popup mini main menu that can be accessed from any screen? From further inspection into the EXIT_FS script, I think what Im trying to do can be done.

    Scenario: Push the 'hot spot' (example: bottom right corner) portion of the screen and the transparent icons appear on top of the current skin screen. These icons would represent each of the major screens or all of the screens and allow instant acces to them. The left arrow in the bottom left would take you back to the previous screen that you where on.

    I think this would be an extra cool feature and I have definetly not seen it implemented in any other skins on any platform. I could probaly do the coding/scripting myself but when it comes to graphics, I have no skill what so ever. Is this possible though?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Osiris
    By "main menu", I meant the one labeled 'MENU_ON' and 'MENU_OFF' as jpegs in the LSX folder. As far as Object Dock goes, I understand what you mean by the usefuleness of it, but I personally can't justify buying that program or wanting to install it on top of an allready full install. I just rather not have any more apps running then I do or spending any more money for that matter.

    From looking at the scripts, I dont see how they are Object Dock dependant. What I'm getting at is can I use the scripts in other ways such as creating a popup mini main menu that can be accessed from any screen? From further inspection into the EXIT_FS script, I think what Im trying to do can be done.

    Scenario: Push the 'hot spot' (example: bottom right corner) portion of the screen and the transparent icons appear on top of the current skin screen. These icons would represent each of the major screens or all of the screens and allow instant acces to them. The left arrow in the bottom left would take you back to the previous screen that you where on.

    I think this would be an extra cool feature and I have definetly not seen it implemented in any other skins on any platform. I could probaly do the coding/scripting myself but when it comes to graphics, I have no skill what so ever. Is this possible though?
    Ok, those images are a little misleading. Or the file name is a little misleading. That is not the default main menu, that is an alternate main menu that by default is not used in the skin. Its included mainly as a preview/something i was working on/use it if you like it type of thing. To enable the use of that screen, rename menu2.skin to menu.skin. Backup the original menu.skin file first.

    as for the pop up, its totaly possible to do it that way, but much easier to do it inside of RR and not use scripts. Ill set it up today and post an update that includes this and remove the MouseWheelInput as a default and make it an option (probably better that way anyway).
    As for objectdock, i totaly understand not wanting to pay for it (they do have a free version but it dosent include docks). If i knew of a totaly free version before i paid for mine i would have gone that route. I just dont like seeing the windows start menu at all when im in my car.

    ill update the thread for the skin with the files needed and any configuration needed (if needed) for the pop up screen when its ready.
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    need to finish the other icons but this is basicly how its gonna look or something similar.
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    That is almost exactly what im talking about except I was thinking of what the background. Is that possible or does RR need to have a background image to load on to? Are you going to add the ability to be able to access this access menu from any screen or should I?

    Does Object Dock replace your taskbar? If so and you use the free version, what is the advantage of it if it cannot replace the taskbar?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Osiris
    That is almost exactly what im talking about except I was thinking of what the background. Is that possible or does RR need to have a background image to load on to? Are you going to add the ability to be able to access this access menu from any screen or should I?

    Does Object Dock replace your taskbar? If so and you use the free version, what is the advantage of it if it cannot replace the taskbar?

    TIA
    i dont think you finished your first sentence. Is what possible?

    the way it looks now isnt final, just something i whipped up really quick.

    you can access this menu from any screen that has the time by clicking on the time in the top left corner.

    I have the full version of object dock (pay version) and it can replace your taskbar and tray area. It even has a start menu and a bunch of other stuff/crap you can add to it, like a weather widget and other widget type things you see all over the net. In a lot of ways its a lot better than the traditional windows start menu.
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    Sorry about the poor language. I was in a rush.

    What I meant was, thats almost exactly what I was thinking of except with a more semi transparent background or none at all.

    Ive been looking at Object Dock a little. Im going to d/l it now and try the free version.

    **EDIT**
    Just used Object Dock a little and I must say that I'm more than a little impressed. And unlike alot of other Windows object skinning programs, objects, and widgets it isnt an exorbant amount of memory. Highly recommended worth looking at. (I have the free version.)
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