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    Nah, I think Robbie is a super sub, a bit like Fairclough in his day. Trouble is he can't take a full match. The Fowler Prowler instincts are still there though, but the guys around him aren't stepping up to give him the options. I think Kuyt is a lot to blame, he's a great footballer, but these fancy flicks here and great to watch when they come off, but he surprises everyone with his little touches and that includes his team mates. Look at Bellamy yesterday, mind you . . . . . Don't get mke started on him !

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    O.K. Here's more feedback.

    AAAARRRGGGGHHH!!!! Threre's no close button on the launch skin, hell there's no buttons. With your current configuration you can only open one external app, and if it doesn't close cleanly then its the only app you can open and you'll never get to the app menu again. For some tasks, I have several external apps running simultaneously - not possible with this skin. You need to add a few buttons - next app, closewindow, OSK, Up, and Down. Imagine my horror when I ran the Winamp Library to listen to Internet radio and couldn't close it.

    Oh by the way, listening to internet radio revealed another problem - the audio playlist isn't updating like its supposed to. Let me try to explain. With all my other skins when using Winamp Library, I select shoutcast radio. This pulls up a list of internet radio stations. When I double click on one of these stations, RR clears the current playlist and loads the playlist for that radio station and starts playing. If I right click on a station, its playlist is added to the end of the current RR playlist. Unfortunately, your skin will only load the first item when double clicking an internet station and enqueueing doesn't work at all. And when I switch back to Audio player its empty.


    Also, the new XM looks good, I just changed the internal button text from "all" to "Fav" and from "One" to "Chan". Good work keep it up this is looking great!
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    Quote Originally Posted by GizmoQ View Post
    O.K. Here's more feedback.

    AAAARRRGGGGHHH!!!! Threre's no close button on the launch skin, hell there's no buttons. With your current configuration you can only open one external app, and if it doesn't close cleanly then its the only app you can open and you'll never get to the app menu again. For some tasks, I have several external apps running simultaneously - not possible with this skin. You need to add a few buttons - next app, closewindow, OSK, Up, and Down. Imagine my horror when I ran the Winamp Library to listen to Internet radio and couldn't close it.
    On the launch screen, if you use the button in the middle, it launches the app, and changes the function of the M button to an X. This will allow you close the app, but your right, only one app can then be active at a time. How do you run several apps at one time ? This is probably my lack of understanding here. If you double click the list, that fires up the app, and I need to work out how that can be changed to allow the close button to work. I'll have to have a look at that.

    Quote Originally Posted by GizmoQ View Post
    Oh by the way, listening to internet radio revealed another problem - the audio playlist isn't updating like its supposed to. Let me try to explain. With all my other skins when using Winamp Library, I select shoutcast radio. This pulls up a list of internet radio stations. When I double click on one of these stations, RR clears the current playlist and loads the playlist for that radio station and starts playing. If I right click on a station, its playlist is added to the end of the current RR playlist. Unfortunately, your skin will only load the first item when double clicking an internet station and enqueueing doesn't work at all. And when I switch back to Audio player its empty.
    Which skins does this work with, I can check the playlist config to see what the difference is?

    Quote Originally Posted by GizmoQ View Post
    Also, the new XM looks good, I just changed the internal button text from "all" to "Fav" and from "One" to "Chan". Good work keep it up this is looking great!
    I forgot to say that if you press and hold the fav button, ikt will bring up the fav Playlist, but thats where I got stuck on knowing what commands to add, and how this screen works. Glad to see its better though. I am not happy about the buttons though, they are smaller and don't quite look right. I will have a play with them when once the functionality is working ok.

    Thansk for the Feedback mate, your one of the few !

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    Answers in RED.

    Quote Originally Posted by kpjuk View Post
    On the launch screen, if you use the button in the middle, it launches the app, and changes the function of the M button to an X. This will allow you close the app, but your right, only one app can then be active at a time. How do you run several apps at one time ? This is probably my lack of understanding here. If you double click the list, that fires up the app, and I need to work out how that can be changed to allow the close button to work. I'll have to have a look at that.

    Menu button works more like exit than close cause when I return to apps the Winamp Library is still open. To run more than one app, I use the "Next" button which switches back to the app selection screen and then select the next app. In essence this "next" button sequencially toggles through the open apps and the apps menu.



    Which skins does this work with, I can check the playlist config to see what the difference is?

    All that I've ever used and I've used most of them. I created a workaround by adding "||reloadlist" after all "reloadskin" commands in the exectbl.ini. It would be better to have reloadlist as part of the command that calls up the audio player and audio browser.
    One more question how do I make the backgrounds swap automatically?
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    To make the backgrounds change automatically, you need to be on the initial menu screen. Make sure that the IDL,30 is set to the time you want the image to change over at.

    Look at Minimal.ini in the main skin directory.

    [Minimal Skin]
    ; 0 = Off 1 = On
    MinDebug=0

    ; 0 = Sequential 1 = Random
    MinBGrandom=1

    MinLastBG=3

    The first option sets a debug flag for tracking problems, and should generally be set to 0.

    Set MinBGRandom to 0 or 1 as it says for Sequential change or random change. MinLastBG just tracks the last file used.

    You can easily set IDL to change the background image for every screen. Just copy this line in Exectbl.ini,

    "IDLE","WALLPAPER",menu.skin

    and change menu.skin to the skin you want.

    I am strapped for time over the next few days, but will get back to the Launch probs by Thursday.

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    Walnut skin now added to options

    Hi guys,

    I have still not had any feedback on the Sirius AverTV and Radioshark screens ? Can someone with the right technology please try one of the included skins and let me know if these screens work ok.

    This release has the first of the solid skins included (see first post for download). I have chosen a Walnut finish for the buttons. To use the Walnut version, hit Menu (M), Apps, Config, and choose the Walnut button (see image below).

    All feedback is good feedback, so please let me know your thoughts.

    cheers
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    Quote Originally Posted by kpjuk View Post
    All feedback is good feedback, so please let me know your thoughts.
    All right you asked for it. The weather this weekend was so nice I had to get out and wring out this skin some more. This skin plays like the few flash skins I've tried and my poor tablet can only barely keep up. Some of the issues I experienced are probably because of my setup so please let me know if you can't duplicate them. The following is what I've come up with:

    1. Please change all buttons from prev and next to RRPrev and RRNext. This will allow those buttons to be dual function, i.e., click and RR goes to the Previous/next list item, ckick & hold RR rewinds/fastforwards. I noticed this especially in the video screen where they only rew/ff and I couldn't change to the next video.

    2. I have a WinTV USB w/ FM and when I ran the TV screen in your skin, I got nothing. The TV screens on my other skins have a listbox for channels, a Video box and a zoom button. Which TV are you trying to support?

    3. Video screen colors look washed out. My red looks pink. Could you add tracktime over the "List" label and Tracktotal over the "Zoom" label.

    4. Picture viewer doesn't have any controls. Looks like you're using the internal RR pic viewer, and it has buttons that can be assigned, but you don't have any in your skin. I've come to rely on them to switch on and off the slideshow among other things. The pics in picviewer end up as a collage against my backgrounds - could you draw a border around the pic viewer pictures to differentiate them from the background image.

    5. Audio Player album art looks too high on the current build. The cover art was perfect on the original release did something change? Your scroll buttons are not in the normal order (that sounded really bad, but you know what I mean) - all my other skins are ordered: << < > >> vertically or horizontally. I keep hitting the wrong button on your skin.

    Now for my problems that are probably more related to my machine than your skin. For some reason, I can't start RR with your skin. Actually I can, but it locks up RR about 5 seconds after the main menu is drawn. My mouse works, but RR doesn't respond and I have to restart with the three finger salute. If, however, I start RR in another skin and switch over to yours, everything works fine. Strange! My last problem is switching colored framesets is hit and miss. Half the time it works, half not. I've had this happen with other autoit scripts, so don't fret.

    Had enough, I have. Great skin, now let's make it perfect!
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    I tried this & I really love the concept... this is awsome what you've done here... when I build my skins I usually put many different backgrounds in my psd & I can just change the background, then show & hide the other layers while saving .jpg's to build a skin, but to be able to just have ONE SKIN, & be able to cycle through different background images... man, that's just awsome!!! for me to change a background'll take me an hour or 2 at least... like this it'll take no time at all... I love this idea...

    I don't understand how you did this, is this something I could do? I tried your skin at my resolution but it doesn't work at all... it works at 800x600 though... how can I build a skin like this at 768x1024? I don't understand how it's hard coded... what is an inc file? I would love to be able to build on this for my skin... I did notice a problem on my machine embeding the visual & it locked up once, but I didn't get to playing with it too much...

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    Hi guys,

    @GizmoQ, excellent mate, thanks for the feedback, I will start work on this right away!

    1. will get a mini upload sorted today.

    2. I have an Artec T1 which I haven't got around to skinning yet, so I looked at JohnWPB's Blue Devil skin and based the TV skin on that. Its for the AverTV. If there is a skin with the right functions on it, let me know and I will redo a WinTV skin just for you, given the support you've provided.

    3. On the Video screen, the transparency is being shown as Pink ! I will have to cover those areas up with a colour to stop the naff look ! I will add the tracktime and Tracktotal no probs.

    4. It does indeed use the internal RR picviewer. Have you tried the FF and RR buttons, these should move to nextpic, previouspic. I need to get a help function / page sorted out to explain all this.

    5. The top of the Album art should start at the same point as the top of the page up button. I have had to do a lot of changes to the Y positions when the buttons change from top to bottom, so I may have screwed something up here. Try the latest download, which has the right Y positions in it.
    The < << >> > positions tie in to windows ! on a scroll bar, the top arrow does 1 line at a time, the gap between the top arrow and the marker does a page up or down, so this is "right" for me logically.

    For the loading problems, try downloading the latest version of RR. Some of the commands used require at least the 8th October version, but go to the 12th November and you should be safe.

    Thanks for the feedback, I'll get some of this sorted out asap.

    @TurboCad6,

    The concept for this skin varies from the mainstream. Normally when you make a skin, you develop 4 images for each screen, Empty, Off, Down and On. I have just used 1 image for the background, and then used the IMG tag to add images as overlays. This is your problem ! The IMG tag needs you to specify the xy co-ordinates for the top right corner, and the width,height. My image tags are set at 800 x 600 for full screen, 800 x 485 for the area below the buttons. The video image is 800 x 117. I could do you an example skin at 1024 x 768, to show you the principle if that would help, let me know which screen to do it for and I will forward it over.

    I have also used a lot of INC files, which will confuse you if you haven't seen these before, but basically it is a text file with common rr skin commands in it. you add the INC file in the skin where you want the code to appear, and it effectively cuts and pastes that code in to the skin. I use it for the button bars, the Centre bar (for Audio etc) and the Statusbar. I also have a Fonts INC file, but this isn't used yet. One of the reasons I want to do a black text version is to get this one sorted. When you use INC files, you just have to change the text file, and all the screens that use the INC file will also be changed once the skin is reloaded. Have a look in the RR Help file, I have written a description of how to use them.

    Thanks for the support guys, it is good to see someone out there is actually using the skins !

    I am planning on doing another solid Style, as the Walnut actually looks better than I thought ! An aluminium version, with Black text is what I am considering at the moment, if you have any prefereneces let me know, and I will see if these fit in.

    cheers
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    Sorry for the delay here guys, the week has just run away with me.

    New download is at Minimal061201.rar

    1. Buttons changed over. but NOTE the press and hold functionality is defined between the @ @ signs at the end of the button.

    2. Can you tell me what skin works with the WinTV card, and I can copy over the functionality. The current skin is based on an AVerTV card.

    3. The red frame video graphics have now lost the girly pink, and the requested labels have been added.

    4. On the Picture viewer skin, the << and >> buttons move forward and backwards through the skins. You said that you had a problem with pictures looking like a collage ? Can you post a screenshot to show me what you mean please.

    5. The top of the Album art should be at the same height as the top of the second button on the centre bar. The buttons are logically correct, It would be interesting to see what people think about this?

    Let me know how you get on with these changes.

    cheers
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