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    That's what the M.O.S.T. vendors were saying --...

    That's what the M.O.S.T. vendors were saying -- don't insist on car-only solutions, help drivers attach and use their personal electronics in the car. What I think is lacking is a suitable front end...
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    The direction of in-car electronics

    M.O.S.T. is a collaboration of electronics and automobile compaies around a next-gen architecture. I was perusing their website and the presentations made by various companies at a recent gathering....
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    Busy, busy, busy.

    Busy, busy, busy.
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    Joe, Is there any way that IBUScomm could be...

    Joe,

    Is there any way that IBUScomm could be migrated to the Mac, using RealBASIC or some other means?
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    Note that there are also solutions for using...

    Note that there are also solutions for using factory-installed buttons, and IR remotes that attach to the steering wheel or elsewhere.

    External buttons are great for the driver, but can be a...
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    What I like about the iPhone design are the...

    What I like about the iPhone design are the simple displays, not multi touch; many complex gestural commands won't work well in a car. As ryanfaerman mentioned, it's best to avoid multi-level...
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    That's a nice, simple solution. At least the Mac...

    That's a nice, simple solution. At least the Mac part.

    Powering the Apple TV (aTV) will require an inverter, which isn't a big deal. But providing power when the car is off may be needed. I think...
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    Album flipping is done by touching a small icon...

    Album flipping is done by touching a small icon on the picture. Swiping is a different matter, more like click-drag-release.
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    The pinch interface requires multitouch, but...

    The pinch interface requires multitouch, but flipping over an album to list its contents would not.
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    iPhone has to be a precursor to an iTablet

    Until I saw the Multi-Touch UI in action, I didn't think Apple could really differentiate a tablet product from the past PC attempts/failures. But that's changed for a couple of reasons: A ready...
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    iPhone UI

    Several of the iPhone's UI features and gestures would be good models for a touchscreen in a car. Its small screen can't hold a lot of information at once, and in a car the driver can't afford to...
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    In the presentation, Yahoo or Google mentioned...

    In the presentation, Yahoo or Google mentioned "Internet Architectures" as though this was a term for what they developed against. If it can support AJAX, which the Google Maps app probably uses, you...
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    Not quite

    That will get you 5 channels for DVDs, which leaves out bass in 5.1 setups. For stereo, the bass is in the left and right channels. You'd need to be able to have some way to split it out to amplify...
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    I agree that the AppleTV is way too tempting not...

    I agree that the AppleTV is way too tempting not to be cracked.

    The iPhone is apparently a closed environment as well, with only a subset of OS X technologies, so there may not be any 3rd-party...
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    Regarding the iPhone, it's about a widget away...

    Regarding the iPhone, it's about a widget away from being a nice in-car media system for the driver and passenger. That and a fresnel lens to magnify the view. The developer info for the iPhone will...
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    The Apple TV has a few constraints that will...

    The Apple TV has a few constraints that will probably keep it out of the car. It does not have VGA out, only HDMI and component video, at 720p, so the video resolution won't be adjustable. It's...
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    Can you post a photo of the dock installed,...

    Can you post a photo of the dock installed, holding a Mac Mini in the car? Do you foresee it as a permanent install or as a means to quickly remove the Mini to hide it elsewhere?
  18. What's involved in setting up the port? I would...

    What's involved in setting up the port? I would assume a serial driver for the Resler I-BUS-to-USB interface, but is there anything else? Does your java ibus driver handle the baud rate, et cetera?
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    @sama

    How do you plan to support I-BUS in your framework? I noticed in the HackTheIBUS forum on Yahoo that someone has built an I-BUS 'middleware' daemon, and it should get ported to Mac OS X....
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    Rotary Controls

    Looking at QCar got me thinking about rotary controls. They're simple, but that means there's few commands. Some ideas for getting more controls from, say, the PowerMate:


    Use the first action...
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    My MINI nav screen is also 6.5", so I feel your...

    My MINI nav screen is also 6.5", so I feel your pain.

    Why not go fullscreen nearly all the time? If you display partial windows, they have to have labels to tell them apart, which further reduces...
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    Okay, I'll use my own situation: My computer...

    Okay, I'll use my own situation:

    My computer screen is 19" from my eyes when I'm typing. My car display is 32" from my eyes when I'm driving, and that's in a MINI so it's closer than many cars. A...
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    Think small and clean

    Question from another thread:

    "Those images make the map look like it will be really really small on a 7" screen. Same with video, why is everything so small?"

    Because a 7" screen is about 3.5"...
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    Design Principles

    I thought it would be good to have a thread in which we could post insights and learnings from using car front ends, and discuss design issues we encounter when developing them.

    Please use the...
  25. First thought -- wait until after the MacWorld...

    First thought -- wait until after the MacWorld trade show in January to see what the newest iPod product announcements are, and for prices on existing modelsa to drop.

    Clarifying questions -- You...
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