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Thread: Synth Car PC 2nd generation ** UPDATED WITH BETA 1202 INFO**

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    I really do not have any linux experience, but do you find it is more stable in the car? I have been running win8 with cf and freeice in the car for approx 18 months now and i find the thing that causes the most instability and crashes is usually windows itself. The thing that has not yet pushed me over to try linux is mainly finding device drivers for my usbs like usb mouse, touch screen and dabmonkey board.

    your thoughts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mos33y View Post
    I really do not have any linux experience, but do you find it is more stable in the car? I have been running win8 with cf and freeice in the car for approx 18 months now and i find the thing that causes the most instability and crashes is usually windows itself. The thing that has not yet pushed me over to try linux is mainly finding device drivers for my usbs like usb mouse, touch screen and dabmonkey board.

    your thoughts?
    unless you are using some special devices, most devices work on linux. ie. usb mouse, touch, dab+, odb, or at least support some of the models.
    you can try a VM of linux and see if your hardware works with a default kernel. if a device is not working you will need to recompile the kernel.

    if you're looking for an out-of-the-box solution, forget about it. there is currently bodhi linux, and other distro which offer tablet support but none of them meet my standards.

    obviously you need to spend some time configuring to the way you want but its great. you get all the tools to work with window managers, docks, hotkeys, mouse gestures,virtual desktops,..etc, and if your good enough it is possible to have a front-end like android.

    then why not just install a cheap android tablet? Because you can't expand on a tablet, you are actually shrinking it. the cameras become unusable (if installed in dash) for one.

    for me, coming from CF about 7 years ago, linux changed my mindset from "install os and install a front-end on top of it", to "make the os as a front-end"
    you get so much more control over your carpc, possibility becomes endless.
    CF was good back then but the UI is now out-dated for touch. no thumb scroll for one.
    with linux you can do system wide thumb scroll, onscreen keyboard..etc

    will post beta pics soon, delayed as i'm writing my stackable playlist manager as seen in CF in HTML5.
    Last edited by trippah; 11-30-2013 at 05:55 AM. Reason: addition

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    I really like what you've done on this one. I am looking to build a Car PC but I also insist on using all Free Software(free as in speech). I have been browsing the forums here and have noticed that most people are just running windows with a program on top to manage the different functions you'd want in a car pc. For this application a GNU/Linux(or even FreeBSD) system just makes more sense.

    I think that your Openbox setup looks great but I also thought of using E17 for the interface. What limitations have you hit in your inteface setup that you wish would work a little different or a little better? Also, are you using an FM/AM/HD Radio tuner at all? Do you have any kind of internet connection running?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThinkGNU View Post
    I really like what you've done on this one. I am looking to build a Car PC but I also insist on using all Free Software(free as in speech). I have been browsing the forums here and have noticed that most people are just running windows with a program on top to manage the different functions you'd want in a car pc. For this application a GNU/Linux(or even FreeBSD) system just makes more sense.

    I think that your Openbox setup looks great but I also thought of using E17 for the interface. What limitations have you hit in your inteface setup that you wish would work a little different or a little better? Also, are you using an FM/AM/HD Radio tuner at all? Do you have any kind of internet connection running?
    There is still plenty to do, ticking them off one by one, but I'm glad you like it so far, thanks.

    I tried E17, (Also compiz, gtk) and it was really unstable on my netbook (my initial deployment) so I decided to keep this a minimal profile and add a rich profile using E or another rich composite window manager when I upgrade my hardware. It's kinda hard to get used to the E binary config system, really annoying. Also i think there are like only a handful of active developers for E, so release cycles and bug fixes are slow, if any.

    The greatness of HTML5 is that there are existing libraries like JQuery so you can do composite with minimal effort. The downside is, since it is running in a browser as a WWW user (it has no display), it takes a bit of tweaking to allow sharing of X with the local desktop user..etc I think it would be handy to have a gtk-python wrapper at this point. In laymen terms, the browser can't talk directly to the GUI, so python would step up.

    thumb scrolling is a bit of a hack, as it doesn't recognise the scroll gesture until you let go off the screen. (ie. the page scrolls down AFTER you swipe your finger up). it should recognise immediately and scroll with the finger. but how do i differentiate between a thumb scroll and text select... hmm I think ill add this in the window manager layer.

    There will be a radio tuner in the DTV box I'll be purchasing. I'm keeping the radio encoding on the hardware to minimize load on the pc.
    I'll also be attaching a 3G dongle for internet, but data rates are expensive in AU I'll have to look into bandwidth management and offline capabilities.

    hmm This thing is becoming like android by the day....
    Last edited by trippah; 12-01-2013 at 11:04 PM.

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    I got my 8" touch display today, here is a quick unboxing...
    will do some final touch screen testing before installing it...

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    I wouldn't mind giving this a try. Looks promising and should be really fast on my hardware.
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