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Thread: 1996 BMW 525tds - iBus integrated and OEM look

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    Ok couple of observations for you.

    1. if you use it in the Audio Player, as it is a winamp visu, you can get it to embed nicely (although it doesn't currently fit in with the iDrive design.)

    However should you embed it you then have the visulisations clour scheme, which brings me to point 2

    2. you can use resHacker to export the BMP, edit it and then put back in.

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    Thanks for the reshacker idea. Works like a charm! The bmp now is completely black and can be embedded nicely. If I put a little bit more time in it, it's even possible to give it the stripes of the skin and make them match perfectly. Only problem is as you say, since there is no way to resize it, it doesn't really fit the iDrive design.

    I don't have a lot of time now. Maybe later when I have some time I will try to make another "play mode" screen with the analyzer embedded. But to be honest, I think I will not get it in there without messing up the design. For other skins I think this way it could be a nice spectrum analyzer. Gonna give it a try on my friends TR-skin (again, when I've got some time )
    BMW 525tds -Biostar I94GM-I4 -Celeron M44O 1,86GHz, M2-ATX, 1Gb, 320GB -HQCT RDS tuner -Creative Extigy -iBus controller -Lilliput 7" touchscreen -DLS Ultimate A7 amplifier -Focal 130K, 130V, 27V2 speakers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bimmerstyle View Post
    @Vinzer: By the looks of it you made a clip region for the entire analyzer. What I did was making four different clip regions for each section of the analyzer. Looks something like this:
    Bimmerstyle, Thank you for help

    Now I've got the idea !
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    Hi,

    On friday I have finally put the HQCT in my car, after waiting a few weeks for the internal USB-cables. It went very smooth. It was less difficult then I tought it would be. I have put the tuner module in an external aluminium case. I've read from quite some people that making it external would be better for reception and interference. It wouldn't have fit in the voom case anyway, even if I wanted it to.

    Sorry for the low quality pics. They were taken with my cell phone.

    The module in the external alu. box:



    The box connected to the PC



    The pc mounted on the trunks side-panel and put the wires trough a hole. Once back in the car the box was mounted on the back of the side panel.



    I'm pretty happy with the tuner. Reception is good. I have two remarks, but they only concern the RDS part so people from the US will not have these problems I guess.

    -The RDS text often are weird symbols ore it's not complete
    -AF (alternate frequency), the thing that makes the frequency change automaticly when you drive from one broadcast area to another, is not possible with the current software. I've read on these forums that people are busy trying to solve this problem but I haven't found one that allready did. If someone knows about a working version of this I would be very happy.
    BMW 525tds -Biostar I94GM-I4 -Celeron M44O 1,86GHz, M2-ATX, 1Gb, 320GB -HQCT RDS tuner -Creative Extigy -iBus controller -Lilliput 7" touchscreen -DLS Ultimate A7 amplifier -Focal 130K, 130V, 27V2 speakers

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    After almost a year some things were added to the PC so maybe it was time to update this thread.

    First I bought an external 120GB samsung HD. This is mainly used for Video only. So my audio Files are on the internal drive and video is on the external one. The external drive sits in the little storage compartment on the left of the steering wheel and can be removed easely to add content on it.

    On the picture is the disk and also 2 HQCT's and antenna cables I ordered at the same time. One for myself and one for a friend. About these you can read in the post above.



    Next was added an iBus controller. At first this was only used to control volume and track with my steering wheel buttons. But recently I've managed to make RoadRunner change automaticly between Day skin and Night skin when the cars lights are turned on and off using the iBus. More information about this you can find here.



    To improve the soundquality of the install I've added an External Creative Extigy soundcard to the system. I chose this because it's pretty old and doesn't need much system requirements. This card can be found second hand pretty cheap because there is no Vista support for it so this was another reason I chose it.



    For now I'm pretty happy with the way it sounds but I probably will upgrade it in the future with a Rockford Fosgate 360. But now I'm working on some doorpanels to add a pair of 6" speakers per door to improve my kickbass. After this is done it's time for the 360.

    So that's it for now. I also updated my first post with the added components and some new pics.
    BMW 525tds -Biostar I94GM-I4 -Celeron M44O 1,86GHz, M2-ATX, 1Gb, 320GB -HQCT RDS tuner -Creative Extigy -iBus controller -Lilliput 7" touchscreen -DLS Ultimate A7 amplifier -Focal 130K, 130V, 27V2 speakers

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    New PC installed

    After being happy with my Epia install for about a year and 4 months now, I was looking for some more power. Don't know really why but I guess people always have the need for more speed or something like that...

    So after seeing a christmass special on CarTFT.com wich included a Biostar I94GM-I4 ITX, a Intel Celeron M440-1,86GHz, and 1Gb of ram for only 298,- I went along and bought it. Since I was planning on selling the Epia to a friend completely I also needed a new case and power suply. So I ordered a M300 case wich is about the same size as the Voom case I had before but it had a lot of more space inside. Recommended for that case was the M3-ATX PSU so I ordered this one as well.




    First of all I made two connectors that would make it easy to connect an disconnect the PC from the car. One is used to power it (12V, ACC, GND, AMP-RMT) the other one is used to power my screen and hub (12V, GND, 5V, GND). Holes were drilled into the case to put these connectors
    I also made a connecter to connect the PC to my Regulate 12V power suply at home with a switch on it to simulate ignition.




    On my epia the HQCT was connected to it externally in a little housing. Since there was a lot of extra space in the M300 enclosure I wanted to put the HQCT in the case. This way it would be much easier to remove the PC out of the car. This was my main goal with this new install. Easy removal of the PC to do maintenance on it.
    So I started of by drilling some extra holes in the case and putting the HQCT in there.




    The next thing was the HDD. I wanted a big one! My 60Gb laptop drive in the Epia was completely full and using an external disk often gave me problems using hibernation so I wanted a big drive in the PC. Since laptop drives with a lot of storage are pretty expencive, a 320Gb Western Digital Caviar 3,5" drive was bought. This should fit in the case according to the manual. I was a little afraid though it would not fit in there on the space provided because it would touch the PSU. So I drilled some extra holes in the tray and moved the HDD to the other side in the case. I used spacers to clear some distance between de HDD and the tray because otherwise the power suply cable wouldn't fit.




    Finally, all the other components were fitted in the case.




    The first two weeks, the car PC was sitting next to his big brother at home to put on the software and making it work ok. Both the car PC as the desktop were connected to my 22" monitor. A button on the monitor makes it easy to switch between both of them. Also a wireles desktop was used to control the car PC. This was a little inconvenient since there now were 2 keyboard and 2 mice on my desk making me getting them mixed up all of the time.



    Now it was time to put it in the car. First of all, the little Epia was removed and the wiring for the HQCT that was still in there was build in the new Intel. At this time I put both PC's side to side and you can clearly see the difference in size is not big. Altough I couldn't dream of putting the HQCT and a 3,5" drive in the voom case. And the M300 has a compact flash slot build in on top of it (wich I don't use however).



    As I allready mentioned, I wanted the PC to be easy removable. So I came up with an idea of using two little doorlocks to keep the PC in place. On the bottom both aluminium slats slide into the carpet and on the top the doorlocks snap over them so the the PC is held in place. It's solid and won't move and the locks are pretty firm so unless great force is applied on them, they won't unlock.



    Some new install pics:

    PC behind the sliding door, USB connections and switch in storage compartiment, Sub-remote from my DLS-amp and some pics of the trunk.



    Then it was time to put the PC on, so I filipped the ignition and ................................................................Nothing!!!

    To make a long story short: The M3-ATX isn't the best PSU a person can buy. Specialy not if you got a diesel engine. I did an entire review of it that can be seen here so I'm not going into the details anymore. After a few days of hairscratching and using the F-word a lot of times I now use a switch that enables me to startup the PC after the engine is running. This is temporarily though, I'm ordering an M2-ATX. It will fit the case so I'm getting rid of the M3.

    Other then that, after a week of tweaking setting up things right in the car my new buddy works like a charm. The POST is a lot faster then on the Epia and booting also is about 10 seconds faster. Only resuming from hibernate is not that much faster. It seems to be but after the "windows is resuming" slider (this is REALLY fast though) is gone there is a few seconds of black screen until music starts to play. It has something to do with my USB devices because when they're disconnected the black screen isn't there anymore and it comes out of hibernate really fast. I have to figure out what causes the delay. Once booted, everything works really fast and reliable.

    I'm still using Roadrunner as frondend. I really like it and the fact that its perfect to customize to everybody's personal needs. After using the iDrive skin for more then a year now, I switched to the simplistique skin (Sorry Enforcer, Yours is still a great skin but I thought it was time for a new look to come with the new PC).

    The Simplistique skin was really modified quite a bit before I started using it. The original fonts were not too great in my opinion altough the fonts used for the buttons were really cool. So I changed all the fonts used in the skin to those. Also many screens were removed. I don't use internet in the car, so I have no use for weather, traffic, e-mail, web,... They're all gone. Also DVD is gone. Don't use it, have a 320Gb HD now. Who needs DVD? This way, the entire second menu screen was removed. With the second menu screen button I now control Gamma. Also an entire night skin was fabricated by myself. At night I want the skin to have about the same colour as the rest of my dashboardlights so I changed colours of the skin to the way I liked them making myself a nightskin. Further than that, a bunch of little things were changed, most of them I don't even remember. Some of them were, radio skin to handle RDS, GPS skin to work with iG 2.1.2 and the clock on all skins changes day/night (thanks enforcer!).

    One big thing was added to the skin also. Since it's designed to work without a wireless connection I wanted an easy way to add music and video to the PC. The sollution for this I found in JohnWPB's Digital FX skin. He has a screen in there where you can copy from an USB device to the music or video folder of your HDD. At first I simply copied and pasted his scripts and put his little scrip executables in a folder in the simplistique skin. Didn't expect it to work tough, but hey.... it did. After looking some more at this I saw more possibilities. Since I use different folders for different genres of music, it wasn't very convienent I could only copy to my main music folder. So I added some lines in the skin and RR.ini and got it working. I made different skins for copying audio, video, pictures and data. And in each of those I can copy the content to 5 different locations (could be more but then I will have to change the design of the skin). Thank you for coming up with this functionality JohnWPB! It's really great, works lik a charm and everybody should have it. Thanks!


    So that's basicly it. Here are some screenshots of the new pc in the car:

    ---Main Menu Night----------Main Menu Day----------Audio Night--------------GPS Night---------------GPS Day--------




    ------Entire Dash------------Video Playing---------------NFSU2-----------New Utilities screen--




    --Copy Media Selector----Copy Audio Screen---



    To finish I also made a little movie of the PC in action. It's made on the 22" screen but it is actually the car PC. As you can see it responds a lot quicker then an Epia would. Also playing NFSU2 is no problem. On the movie all the settings in the game set to minimum but I can set them fairly high on 800x600 and still have a pretty decent framerate. Also visualisations, screen and albumart transitions work great on this PC as they didn't on the Epia. I'm very happy with the speed of the celeron M440!

    BMW 525tds -Biostar I94GM-I4 -Celeron M44O 1,86GHz, M2-ATX, 1Gb, 320GB -HQCT RDS tuner -Creative Extigy -iBus controller -Lilliput 7" touchscreen -DLS Ultimate A7 amplifier -Focal 130K, 130V, 27V2 speakers

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    Some "unusual" pics of the car taken at BMW Syndikat Racewars in Germany (they loved the PC!... Didn't win any prices though...):

    BMW 525tds -Biostar I94GM-I4 -Celeron M44O 1,86GHz, M2-ATX, 1Gb, 320GB -HQCT RDS tuner -Creative Extigy -iBus controller -Lilliput 7" touchscreen -DLS Ultimate A7 amplifier -Focal 130K, 130V, 27V2 speakers

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    beautiful install, ain't it funny how after you install a pc the next one is so much better, you learn from the install & improve it with each sucessive install.

    sweet car & lovely attention to details man, big props for an awsome car

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    Thanks. Coming from you I really concider this a compliment! Been looking at some of the things you did in the past and they really look great!

    ain't it funny how after you install a pc the next one is so much better, you learn from the install & improve it with each sucessive install
    Yes, you really learn of your mistakes made in the first install and make sure the new one doesn't have them anymore. Maybe my 10th install or so will be PERFECT!
    BMW 525tds -Biostar I94GM-I4 -Celeron M44O 1,86GHz, M2-ATX, 1Gb, 320GB -HQCT RDS tuner -Creative Extigy -iBus controller -Lilliput 7" touchscreen -DLS Ultimate A7 amplifier -Focal 130K, 130V, 27V2 speakers

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    I did a little update on the system this weekend. Bought myself a second hand steering wheel button pod with the two additional phone buttons. Now, with a custom iBusRR.ini file I can control almost the entire system with my steering wheel buttons.



    I made a little video of things in action with the skin based on the new iDrive I am working on.

    ---> Video
    BMW 525tds -Biostar I94GM-I4 -Celeron M44O 1,86GHz, M2-ATX, 1Gb, 320GB -HQCT RDS tuner -Creative Extigy -iBus controller -Lilliput 7" touchscreen -DLS Ultimate A7 amplifier -Focal 130K, 130V, 27V2 speakers

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