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    Maximum Bitrate MikeHunt79's Avatar
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    Convert MP3 to OGG?

    Has anyone tried OGG recently, i was really impressed with the quality @ 64kps. Anyway, since i have a small HD on by mp3 player, I wanted to convert all my mp3's to ogg's, then i can fit twice the music on my mp3 player.

    Anyway, does anyone here know of any good software that converts mp3's to ogg's? It would be nice if it could also tag the ogg's aswell, since all my mpx's are tagged.

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    Mike, keep in mind, an Ogg file will only be higher fidelity than an MP3 if its made from a CD or a wave file. An Ogg file converted from an mp3, will be lower fidelity than the mp3 was to start with.

    Converting the mp3 file to a wave first, won't help either. Once the audio information is lost, its lost forever!

    Dex

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    I know... I've got loads of albums archived on cd in MP3 @ 192kps. Anyway, i could fit 3 times the music on the 10 gig HD if i convert them to 64kps OGG first. I'm already running mpxplay which plays OGG's. I'm still go from WAV to OGG with the CD's that i have to hand.

    I could convert all my MP3's to WAV first, but i would need over 100gigs free which I don't have.

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    I could convert all my MP3's to WAV first,
    Remember, this is not a good idea.

    However, to answer your original question, here are some links:

    8to32
    OggVorbis Links
    yet another

    And here's just a great source for all your audio needs:

    AudioTools

    Enjoy, Dex

    BTW, I never mentioned, I love the Ogg format. I hope it takes over!

    Edit:

    I couldn't imagine the fidelity of anything sampled at 64kbs being very good, so I did a quick test. I encoded one of my favorite songs, from a wave, into a 64kbs mp3 and a 64kbs Ogg. Then I listened to them all, comparing both the mp3 and ogg to the original wave.

    The results were surprising! I'm not sure I could even tell the difference between the original and the ogg. The mp3, on the other hand, was virtually unlistenable, sounding like something being played on an old transistor radio. I can't believe there's this much difference between these two formats.

    Looks like I'll be doing some serious Ogg encoding!

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    I know! OGG impressed me so much that i decided to switch. It's amazing that an album can take up only 20mb and still sound good.

    Anyway, thanx for the links.... Had a search around, and I eventually I found a winamp plug-in that allows me to encode to OGG. This is exellent, as it allows me to run the sound thru a dynamic normalizer plug-in during encoding, so all the OGG files will pre-normalized. This is good for the car, as the road noise is pretty high in my car.

    Thanx again!

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    CD Copy (http://www.cdcopy.sk) will do mp3->OGG conversion, but yeah, it's going to be a quality drop no matter how you cut this cake.

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    In case anyone is interested, I thought I'ld post the 64 kbps Ogg and MP3 that I compared so that you could do your own comparison test.

    This is also a shameless promotion of one of my favorite groups, the British group called Boa. Two of the members, Jasmine and Steve, are the son and daughter of Paul Rodgers, who is the lead singer and guitarist from Bad Company, Free, and The Firm. Some of you may know this song as the opening theme to the anime series called Serial Experiments: Lain.

    EDIT: Neither of the following two links works anymore. I figured, anyone who was going to grab these, did so already, and they were using up too much of my available webspace.

    Here is the Ogg file of Boa - Duvet

    Here is the MP3 file of Boa - Duvet

    BTW, I did get written permission from the group to post this song. They themselves off a higher fidelity version on their website at Official Boa website .

    Dex

    Oh yeah, and you can buy their CD here:

    Amazon.com

    (At least, when their not back-ordered.)

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    Has anybody tried Monkey's Audio?

    According to their developers:


    "Monkey’s Audio is a fast and easy way to compress digital music. Unlike traditional methods such as mp3, ogg, or lqt that permanently discard quality to save space, Monkey’s Audio only makes perfect, bit-for-bit copies of your music. That means it always sounds perfect – exactly the same as the original. Even though the sound is perfect, it still saves a lot of space. (think of it as a beefed-up Winzip™ for your music)
    The other great thing is that you can always decompress your Monkey's Audio files back to the exact, original files. That way, you'll never have to recopy your CD collection to switch formats, and you'll always be able to recreate the original music CD if something ever happens to yours."

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    Hi mp3hombre, I've been trying out Monkey's Audio for about a month now. It is a lossless compression technique, but unfortunately, it only compresses by less than 50% in most cases. That makes it great for archiving old LP's and tapes, but Ogg and MP3 still have the advantage for carrying maximum tune-age in a portable or car environment.

    Dex.

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