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    Windows CE.NET Platform

    Hi guys,
    this is my first post on this forum since I am relatively new to this site, but not to CapPC projects.

    I wondered if anyone has thought about building a CarPC software package on a Windows CE.NET platform? I know that a great deal of CarPC's are based on the VIA EPIA Mainboards and those are CE.NET certified.

    This would allow for immediate start/shutdown, and no need for shutdown delays or whatever. This is certainly not a new idea, but I was hoping if someone has carefully considered it yet. I have been doing some PocketPC 2002 programming, and I know that this is doable with the use of the WMA for CE.NET SDK. I have already ordered the CE.NET and CE.NET Automotive emulation kits and am really working forward to experiment with this.

    It will probably require somewhat more work than a regular PC project, but could prove to be very rewarding in features and ease of use.
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    Instant startup/down sounds cool...Bring it on.
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    yeah no kidding my question is where do i download it from lol
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    Now wait... I haven't started it yet.

    But I hope to have something in a month or two, should I decide to go ahead with it. I would also like to help with Media Engine, since I am guessing not a lot of people will be ready to use a "embedded" type of device, dedicated to run CE.NET only.

    There are also compatibility issues. As I see it now, this solution might require a some sort of bootable memory chip device on board, such as a small DOC [disk-on-chip] or perhaps a CF card?

    And there still is the cost of licensing Windows CE.NET. I admit, this kind of a solution might sound better to device manufacturers than to your average DIY user.

    Will explore further and keep you posted.
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    In addition to my previous posts about CE.NET, here are a couple of pictures from mini-itx.com they took at this years CEBIT.

    These represent a CarPC, i.e. the Atio Car PC. I believe it is a Double DIN sized device based on the VIA Eden platform, powered by Windows CE.







    Please have in mind this is a factory manufactured device. I am hoping to find some shots of the software interface.
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    hmm that mini-itx factory double din doohicky in my opinion looks fugly not to mention thats a huge double din it would never fit in my s-10 with out sticking out alot
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    It was just an example of a possible CE solution. Further more, it represents the only factory designed DIN [doubleDIN] CarPC that is truly feature reach and intended for in dash integration.

    I am sure there are ways of creating a better-fit solution.
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    Originally posted by INSIDES
    In addition to my previous posts about CE.NET, here are a couple of pictures from mini-itx.com they took at this years CEBIT.

    These represent a CarPC, i.e. the Atio Car PC. I believe it is a Double DIN sized device based on the VIA Eden platform, powered by Windows CE.

    Please have in mind this is a factory manufactured device. I am hoping to find some shots of the software interface.

    Very cool. Do you know anything more about this company ? I have had a quick look on the web and got no where fast.

    Thanks

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    WinCE is a very limiting OS. It was made for pda's. Linux has been out longer than CE. You would have to code most program that you need yourself (including drivers) Video player are limited and does not look nice (can't even imagine DVD's) True, for your basic CarPC its more than enought to handle most task, ie. mp3, GPS, internet, text based apps etc.. But if you are going to spend all the time building the pc and installing it, why limit what you can do with it.

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    Why, my friend, I beg to differ.

    WinCE is an embedded OS, meaning it was designed for mission specific uses. I am guessing CarPC's are mission specific devices. And then, this is just a topic on a forum. I am not suggesting that people should transfer to CE.NET. Most of them never will.

    However, I am guessing there is something valuable in CE.NET, since a lot of car manufacturers have accepted it as a de facto standard [Windows Automotive]. The beauty of CE.NET is the seamless integration with devices, immediate start/shutdown and fast opration.

    And then, with most motherboards, you could use a double-boot having both CE.NET and another operating system of your choice. CE.NET can reside on a DOC [disk-on-chip] or a CF card. Whenever you need a "more powerfull and unlimiting OS" you can switch to that other OS. I have read over at VIA's that this is doable with the EPIA motherboards.

    Nevertheless, CE.NET will probably be the first choice to device integrators and not home-brewed CarPC's. I am aware of this, but I just wanted to see what you all think about this.
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