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    i should point out that there is also the qube, also available in the mp3car store-- the main advantage of the qube over the fb is that it will allow inputs to control outputs without the input commands needing to go to a computer to get deciphered to control outputs.

    i don't have anything to do with it, but really like the idea, and just haven't found a good enough project to get one yet...
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    Ok, iv given a look at both the fusion brain and the qube, considering they are both in the same price range if someone were to build a stand alone program to be able to just do simple triggering to control a few relays which one would you guys favor over the other and is so what would be the reason for favoring one more then the other, would building a stand alone program make it easier to also give the option to carrying over to a plugin or something for centrafuse, and also would both be able to work cross platform?

    Would they be able to do other things like controlling the factory hvac controls as well, thats another thing iv always wanted but wasnt sure if it was possible.

    Please forgive me if my questions have been answered elsewhere in the forums, iv given a look but haven't been able to find much and being my programming skills are about zero, the only part i would really be able to contribute is the actual installation and testing or any other physical fabrication since other then the actual building portion the whole carpc thing is relatively new to me still.

    Thanks for the replys so far, its already cleared a few things up for me that i hadnt thought of before, currently working on a visual of the gui layout, should have it up after a little while.

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    both the fb, or qube should be able to control your hvac. there have been threads in the fb area that detail some of it(i am not sure on all of it, so you will have to double check).

    hvac can vary a lot by every car-- but most cars use either cable-actuated controls, or vacuum actuated controls-- and either one will usually require the use of servos to push/pull the original knob, or cable to the correct setting..

    if you have electronic controls, then it require less hardware, and will all be in the programming of the fb/qube.

    last i heard, the maker of the qube (colin) was still working on easy to use software to program it, but it has been a while, so he could have updated it by now...

    but the fb has well established programming...
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    True, the hvac on vehicles does vary a lot, i believe both mine are vacuum controlled, which would be a little more then im willing to get into as far as manipulating the factory knobs, but maybe it can happen at a later day.

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    Fusion Brain has the Fusion Control MDX software and a lot more people with experience. It is capable of doing what you want.
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    Then i guess this is settled, and the fusion brain would be the better choice if theres a larger amount of people who can offer support, here is what iv came up with today, i decided not to include a trunk release icon only because i have an suv and a pickup truck and have no need for one, it may not be the fanciest but it would work for me.



    So the last thing would be to figure out who exactly would be willing to take this on and how exactly do we work out the details as far as compensation for your time and troubles?

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    Make sure you have a general read over the following few pages: Fusion Brain - Coding Discuss

    For what your wanting, Im sure there would be a company or two on here who would be willing to make the skin and standalone exe for you, Being they can sell or provide it under their name.
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    Not to knock the Fusion Brain, because it is a pretty awesome piece of tech, but I've found that if you have any form of programming experience at all, the Phidgets are the easiest to program. As in, I was almost dissappointed at how easy they are to work with.
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    Sonic has done plugins for the Fusion Brain for both RR and for CF. There is no programming necessary really.

    It's VERY easy to get up and running:

    - Download the Fusion Brain Drivers, NOT the full MDX software, and install.
    - Plug in the Fusion Brain
    - Install the CF or RR plugin

    In the plugin folder (It may be slightly different from CF, but this is how it works in RR) Open the fusion.ini

    In there simply tell it what you have plugged into each port, so it knows how to handle if it is a photocell, accelerometer, temperature probe ect.

    As far as turning on and off one of the relays, this is how simple the button code is: (This will toggle a relay on and off)

    "DIGITALOUT1;TOGGLE"

    For a momentary, like for power windows:
    "DIGITALOUT1;RELEASE"

    If you have a temperature probe hooked to input one, then you can display the temperature in a label with this code:
    "analog1"

    Not sure again about CF, but in RR you can do conditions on each of the devices, if its on then do this, if the temperature is greater than 100 then do this ect ect.

    I am using a photo cell on one of the inputs on my Fusion Brain. As the light changes from day to night, tunnels ect, my screen automatically dims & brightens.
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    Hi all, not sure how I missed this thread, but the assumptions are pretty much correct throughout.

    Sonic's awesome work with RRFusion and CFFusion make integration into RoadRunner and CentraFuse really easy. MDX makes everything else possible ontop of that.
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