Thread: Why does it seem like everyone uses WinXP?

Yes, 98.

If XP can tolerate hundreds of consective ungraceful shutdowns , then whats all the fuss about getting a power sequencer and psu like opus?

Originally Posted by cyjad

Yes, 98.

If XP can tolerate hundreds of consective ungraceful shutdowns , then whats all the fuss about getting a power sequencer and psu like opus?

Beats me! I just configure it for a UPS and switch pin 8 on the com port to put it into hibernation!

That's probably your answer - they use the opus to put the pc into hibernation so it boots quicker! Maybe?

Originally Posted by cyjad

Yes, 98.

If XP can tolerate hundreds of consective ungraceful shutdowns , then whats all the fuss about getting a power sequencer and psu like opus?

To be 100% safe, you want to always shut down your system gracefully. If the system is in the middle of writing data to the HDD, corruption can occur. Instead of using a shutdown controller, you can "gracefully" shut down your system using the shutdown option on the start menu or the showdown button in media engine (or whatever frontend you choose to use). That is basically the same thing the shutdown controller will tell the computer to do, but requires only seconds of your time when you want to shut the system off.

That is what I am currently doing till I have time to fully intergrate my computer into my vehicle.


Hope this helps you out.

Originally Posted by jasonsp6

To be 100% safe, you want to always shut down your system gracefully. If the system is in the middle of writing data to the HDD, corruption can occur. Instead of using a shutdown controller, you can "gracefully" shut down your system using the shutdown option on the start menu or the showdown button in media engine (or whatever frontend you choose to use). That is basically the same thing the shutdown controller will tell the computer to do, but requires only seconds of your time when you want to shut the system off.

That is what I am currently doing till I have time to fully intergrate my computer into my vehicle.


Hope this helps you out.

On my Win98 system, it has never been on any sort of power conditioning circuit, and no graceful shutdown macro of any sort. Done using the system (or the car for that matter)? Cut the engine, pull the key. Done. System is shut down quite abruptly, but if you make sure to disable that crappy autorun scandisk on system failure feature, it will be just fine. How many times have YOU ever been writing something to the hard drive when in the car? Consider this: even IF the swapfile is currently being resized or written to when you shut it down, it's rebuilt at boot time anyhow. No harm no foul! Worked for me coming up on three years now!

Ciao!

Originally Posted by deadweasel

On my Win98 system, it has never been on any sort of power conditioning circuit, and no graceful shutdown macro of any sort. Done using the system (or the car for that matter)? Cut the engine, pull the key. Done. System is shut down quite abruptly, but if you make sure to disable that crappy autorun scandisk on system failure feature, it will be just fine. How many times have YOU ever been writing something to the hard drive when in the car? Consider this: even IF the swapfile is currently being resized or written to when you shut it down, it's rebuilt at boot time anyhow. No harm no foul! Worked for me coming up on three years now!

Ciao!

It's not what 'you' are writing to the hard disk but what windows is..
and it's not the swapfile that matters but the data that's in the swapfile when you switch off!

Originally Posted by Laidback

It's not what 'you' are writing to the hard disk but what windows is..
and it's not the swapfile that matters but the data that's in the swapfile when you switch off!

A swap file is space for running programs only. Unless you're writing data to disk with that program, a corrupt swap file won't matter. As Deadweasel said, it's rebuilt when you restart the machine. Considering that all you're doing is reading data, The stuff that gets put in the swap has no need to be written permanently to disk, and thus no information is lost if the system is improperly shut down.

Even if you don't believe that. Think about this; Deadweasel has been shutting his machine down improperly for 3 years now. That means its been shut down improperly at the very least, 600 times. If something was going to get broken. It would have by now.

Originally Posted by fluffy2097

A swap file is space for running programs only. Unless you're writing data to disk with that program, a corrupt swap file won't matter. As Deadweasel said, it's rebuilt when you restart the machine. Considering that all you're doing is reading data, The stuff that gets put in the swap has no need to be written permanently to disk, and thus no information is lost if the system is improperly shut down.

Even if you don't believe that. Think about this; Deadweasel has been shutting his machine down improperly for 3 years now. That means its been shut down improperly at the very least, 600 times. If something was going to get broken. It would have by now.

That's what I said - depends what's in the swapfile!

LOL I run XP. I have lots of RAM (for a glorified jukebox, at least). I don't have a swapfile. I turned it off.

Solves the whole swap file problem

Originally Posted by C4M

LOL I run XP. I have lots of RAM (for a glorified jukebox, at least). I don't have a swapfile. I turned it off.

Solves the whole swap file problem

However, that swap provides a very necessary service! Without it, if you start using more memory than you have available, your system WILL crash. Suddenly XP no longer has the ability to simulate more RAM with a swapfile. Trust me, although it can slightly degrade your performance if it's used too often (hence the reason more RAM is a good thing), it's worth leaving on.

Think about this: if your mp3 player has a memory leak of any sort, say an audio driver conflict causes it, or maybe it's just a buggy version of the player, once all the available RAM is used and not released, the system will go boom, and you'll be stuck with a red face because you just kept singing the next couple words at top volume with absolutely no musical backup (or in my case, the original artist's voice to cover up your sucky singing!)

Swap file GOOD!