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    Quote Originally Posted by frodobaggins
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    Good luck then! LOL :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by HybridEngineer
    What development language are you using for XCar?
    its all C++ using the QT widget set
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    here we go again rararara linux rarararaa.

    It is just not suited for this type of application ! (not yet at least)

    - No REAL GPS app (look at the windows stuff and then judge by that)
    - No uniform hardware support
    - X is like a bloated cow
    - the framebuffer is slow and somewhat graphically challenged (try running a vis. plugin on the framebuffer you'll see what I mean)

    so as much as I dislike windows especially in my car I am afraid that its the only viable solution. and damn ! I whish someone could prove me wrong !

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    Boot from Flash is the way to go.

    But for me, I'm booting less that 20secs, about the time for me to light my cig and be on my way.

    You are right, there are alot of talented peoples here, but i would drather see the knowledge go into something else than try to do a OS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by migrane
    here we go again rararara linux rarararaa.

    It is just not suited for this type of application ! (not yet at least)

    - No REAL GPS app (look at the windows stuff and then judge by that)
    - No uniform hardware support
    - X is like a bloated cow
    - the framebuffer is slow and somewhat graphically challenged (try running a vis. plugin on the framebuffer you'll see what I mean)

    so as much as I dislike windows especially in my car I am afraid that its the only viable solution. and damn ! I whish someone could prove me wrong !

    as always,
    Migrane
    - there are real gps apps.. its just since linux is generally based of open sourced.. there are no good free maps.. other then tiger data. We have gotten destinators SDK to work fine in Linux/Wine. We can embed that perfectly into xcar. Mappoint will run in wine. routis will work in wine
    - the only hardware i have never gotten to work in linux is my intel webcam. If you buy from a major manufactor it'll work
    - X is not bloated. I boot into X on my pvr in 25 seconds right into mythtv. If you use fluxbox and not KDE/Gnome X flys
    - I agree on the framebuffer.. i have never liked it

    I'm sure xcar will prove you wrong.. once develop starts again we will kick it into another gear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hijinks21
    - there are real gps apps.. its just since linux is generally based of open sourced.. there are no good free maps.. other then tiger data. We have gotten destinators SDK to work fine in Linux/Wine. We can embed that perfectly into xcar. Mappoint will run in wine. routis will work in wine
    - the only hardware i have never gotten to work in linux is my intel webcam. If you buy from a major manufactor it'll work
    - X is not bloated. I boot into X on my pvr in 25 seconds right into mythtv. If you use fluxbox and not KDE/Gnome X flys
    - I agree on the framebuffer.. i have never liked it

    I'm sure xcar will prove you wrong.. once develop starts again we will kick it into another gear.
    - maybe I phrased it wrong. There is no mature GPS solution out there for linux that is including maps, voice and all the rest of the goodies that windows apps have.

    - I have had many problems with hardware in linux and we can start way back with ACPI, PCI bus problems, Phillips Webcam (and that one even has a module in the kernel), Dlink network card, Broadcom fiber gigabit card, ADS ChannelSurfer TV card which has bt848 chipset and support in the bttv drivers and then other things like getting custom resolutions going on ATI cards the list goes on and on. 99% of all of the above unfortunately worked great in windows.

    - X is an old technology which fortunately is somewhat keeping up with new hardware. X has been around for a while on all the *NIX systems just because of two major facts. One, it is damn portable ! Two, there is nothing out there that can do better on a *NIX system. There were projects that were thought of beeing an X replacement. Didnt happen yet cos all of them died! Since X is not the only thing that you are considering when developing an application we need to get into the window managers and X toolkits realm. KDE/Gnome are pigs fluxbox is ok but it lacks refinament compared to windows and others. With regards to timing Windows and what was BeOS have and had respectively very competitive loading times and much much better user interfaces.

    While in a server environment Linux is the only thing that I recommend and therefore use.(just upgrading to slackware 10.0) It has a long way to go until it can compete on the desktop as well as other custom environments (embedded, wearable etc). There are projects out there striving for that, including XCar, and I do have my hopes up.

    as always,
    Migrane.
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