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    Phone Control Moderator zorro's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Laidback
    Looks nice enough, just a pity that MapPoint is a waste of space at routeing!
    Feel free to change what ever you want

    Just a thought... why don't you make an MapPoint AddIn four your NetStumbler "Locator"... I think, it would be a good extension
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    Quote Originally Posted by zorro
    Feel free to change what ever you want
    Just to make sure you understood...
    MapPoint = 'waste of space' = crap!
    I wasn't saying that you had wasted any screen space, Just that MapPoint isn't very good at routing!



    Quote Originally Posted by zorro
    Just a thought... why don't you make an MapPoint AddIn four your NetStumbler "Locator"... I think, it would be a good extension
    How do you mean?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laidback
    ...I wasn't saying that you had wasted any screen space,
    I never, never would have been thinking of that
    Just that MapPoint isn't very good at routing!
    Not yet... give Gremlin a couple of time
    Is there anything you'd prefer for routing? What is it?
    How do you mean?
    You've described on your website the app you've been doing with VB and NetStumber in addtion to MapPoint...
    I've just been thinking... if you make this a MapPoint AddIn we would be able to use this in AutoTouch (or any other MapPoint driven app) as well...

    What do you say?
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    Quote Originally Posted by zorro
    I never, never would have been thinking of that
    Ah, just thought you'd misunderstood me, I'd never have a go at anyone providing free programs

    Quote Originally Posted by zorro
    Not yet... give Gremlin a couple of time
    Is there anything you'd prefer for routing? What is it?
    Well, I'd prefer it not to route off the side of the motorway and to know which direction you're heading! It's a MapPoint problem, I know, and Gremlin and SilentAdmirer are having a good go at taming it but I don't think it will ever catch Destinator, for example. (imho)

    Quote Originally Posted by zorro
    You've described on your website the app you've been doing with VB and NetStumber in addtion to MapPoint...
    I've just been thinking... if you make this a MapPoint AddIn we would be able to use this in AutoTouch (or any other MapPoint driven app) as well...

    What do you say?

    I say that it's NetStumbler and it's script that does all the work. I just wrote something that opens both programs in one window so I could run it easily as an external app in MediaCar, without getting windows losing focus and disappearing behind others, No keyboard in the car so no ALT + Tabbing, which is hard to do when you're driving anyway


    Does Autotouch support external apps? or is it going to?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laidback
    I get this error when I try to select anything in music or try to route!

    Can you make it default to a font that comes with Windows?


    Doh! It appears that my default keyboard font is Gil, and that's not skinnable at the moment. I'll fix it to Tahoma or some other standard windows font, and I'll add a keyboard skinning item in the next release!

    -G

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laidback
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    Does Autotouch support external apps? or is it going to?
    It's up to you... Gremlin is waiting for suggestions to come
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    Quote Originally Posted by Laidback

    I say that it's NetStumbler and it's script that does all the work. I just wrote something that opens both programs in one window so I could run it easily as an external app in MediaCar, without getting windows losing focus and disappearing behind others, No keyboard in the car so no ALT + Tabbing, which is hard to do when you're driving anyway


    Does Autotouch support external apps? or is it going to?

    The fact that you don't have a keyboard, or rather might not want a keyboard is the whole point behind Autotouch. It's completely useable with nothing but the touch screen. I've written multiple e-mails to the destinator folks to get their SDK and infromation about it, and they fail to respond. In contrast I've gotten a bunch of information about mappoint from various sources, so I'm going to, for the moment, stay with where I can get information.

    I did find the 2.0 SDK on MP3CAr and it didn't impress me very much, so I went back to MapPoint and worked with it. The only issue I've had so far is that if you're currently on a freeway (autoroute) it will assume you're off the side of it. This is because it's not really designed to do what we're making it do!

    As for other applications I currently only support doing that for DVD and I'm not embedding them in my window yet. I've thought about it but haven't had other apps I'd like to use yet, once again the idea is that you can use the whole system without a keyboard or mouse, and adding other apps could break that paradigm. By contrast I've thought about designing a plug in model that would allow folks to write other modules.

    I've been working hard on this lately but it's hard to develop since the only in car system I have is in my RV and we don't use it but once or twice a month so I don't get to test it out in real useage very frequently. I'd like to get a system in my STi but I'm waiting for Via's Nano-ITX mobo to do this, then I'll have one I can use all the time.

    Zorro has so far been the only one giving me feedback and it's been tremendous, he and I have iterated over maybe 10 versions of changes in the past two weeks making things better. Next up in the plan is to get the settings screen to work, allowing you to change skins on the fly, etc... The rotation of the MapPoint stuff will only work if you have a pretty fast machine (i.e. like a 1.0 GHz Mobile Pentium, it doesn't work my M1000) that's why it's optional. I also want to add volume and mute to the main screen at some point, and voice to the navigation. So there is a roadmap for the future. Since I'm giving this away and have another real job the time frame is somewhat skewed. I also have a two year old at home so spare time is at a premium, however I'm a hacker at heart and always seem to find spare cycles for this project which is currently my fun thing.

    -G

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    The good thing about Destinator is that you can just embed it into your window and everything you need is on there under the menu button, all the controls for routing, zooming, GPS etc. You would need to write anything else as it's already so touchscreen friendly! (Try it with MediaCar and see, if you haven't already)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gremlin
    By contrast I've thought about designing a plug in model that would allow folks to write other modules.
    Nice

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    What I do like about MapPoint is the ability to add pushpins, I like driving down the road with NetStumbler plotting the position of WiFi points (I'm sad! ), if only this could be done in Destinator, especially in the 3D view!

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