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    Quote Originally Posted by radioman193
    listen i understand alot more than you might think
    Apparently Not

    this post was to put info out so Others can find things out for them selvs
    True NOTHING SOUNDS AS GOOD AS THE MASTERS!
    Of Course, here we agree.

    The point is that if you have a **** load of mp3's you can convert them to the mp4 format @ the PROPER Bitrate for the file you are going to convert. and SAVE SPACE AND have the SAME sound Quality as the Mp3 you started with.
    NO YOU CAN'T !
    MP3 is a lossy format, MP4 is a lossy format.
    Converting FROM mp3 TO mp4, you will lose quality, at any bitrate.

    Now if you convert both from the masters and compare, mp4 might be better.

    and you can still play them on a car pc if it uses media player as its core.
    The Point You are Trying to Rip out of this Is
    MORE Songs In your Car computer or On a CD up 2X more.
    Here, we agree.

    I hope you dont Work with IASCA in SQ.
    Or IDBL.
    I hope you don't, because you can't even grasp simple concepts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by frodobaggins
    Apparently Not


    Of Course, here we agree.


    NO YOU CAN'T !
    MP3 is a lossy format, MP4 is a lossy format.
    Converting FROM mp3 TO mp4, you will lose quality, at any bitrate.

    Now if you convert both from the masters and compare, mp4 might be better.


    Here, we agree.


    I hope you don't, because you can't even grasp simple concepts.

    Frodo
    im not going to take all nite to prove what i know or not to explane the concepts of sound and sound and the human hearing to a true digital signal .
    Hint No Digital format can reproduce TRUE SOUND.
    a BIT is not small enough.

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    Get him guys, I'm tired of this.
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    ok then. now thats all out in the open next SLAM?
    with a point i hope.
    somebody with a good IQ over 42 please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by radioman193
    lossLESS codec, such as FLAC.

    still has losss
    As for this:


    http://flac.sourceforge.net/faq.html...lossless_trust
    http://flac.sourceforge.net/faq.html...wave_flac_wave
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    radioman,

    I don't care if you WON the ****ing "world finals for SQ", as that will just put even less emphasis on the results of those competitions.

    You are obviously confused, and don't understand that car audio != quality.

    You don't seem to get this simple concept that you are LOSING quality and information EVERY TIME you convert from one lossless codec to another. I even tried to put in a real world analogy (cutting your hair) but you still don't get it.

    Quote Originally Posted by radioman193
    lossLESS codec, such as FLAC.

    still has losss
    What part of lossless don't you grasp. LOSSLESS DOESN'T THROW ANY DATA AWAY, only compresses it (like Zipping files). If you take a WAVE file, and do an MD5 checksum on it, then compress it to FLAC, and then convert it back to WAVE, and do an MD5 checksum on it, THEY WILL BE IDENTICAL. (The "header" *might* not be the same (time, date etc), but the raw audio data will be)

    Click here if you don't believe me
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    The reason MP3/MP4 takes up "less space" is because they THROW BITS AWAY, and you can NEVER get those bits of information back.

    I've got to head to work now, if you still want to argue your incorrect points, then I'll be back in 30 minutes.

    In that time, hopefully you can do some reading and not ASSuming, and you will shut up on the matter if you still can't grasp it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by radioman193
    ok then. now thats all out in the open next SLAM?
    with a point i hope.
    somebody with a good IQ over 42 please.

    *sigh*
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    Quote Originally Posted by Confused
    radioman,

    I don't care if you WON the ****ing "world finals for SQ", as that will just put even less emphasis on the results of those competitions.

    You are obviously confused, and don't understand that car audio != quality.

    You don't seem to get this simple concept that you are LOSING quality and information EVERY TIME you convert from one lossless codec to another. I even tried to put in a real world analogy (cutting your hair) but you still don't get it.



    What part of lossless don't you grasp. LOSSLESS DOESN'T THROW ANY DATA AWAY, only compresses it (like Zipping files). If you take a WAVE file, and do an MD5 checksum on it, then compress it to FLAC, and then convert it back to WAVE, and do an MD5 checksum on it, THEY WILL BE IDENTICAL. (The "header" *might* not be the same (time, date etc), but the raw audio data will be)

    Click here if you don't believe me
    Here too
    (Mods, monitor if these has been clicked on by radioman )

    The reason MP3/MP4 takes up "less space" is because they THROW BITS AWAY, and you can NEVER get those bits of information back.

    I've got to head to work now, if you still want to argue your incorrect points, then I'll be back in 30 minutes.

    In that time, hopefully you can do some reading and not ASSuming, and you will shut up on the matter if you still can't grasp it.


    Garry
    and yes you have loss with "lossless" its >compressed< to a >Digital file< then converted back or "opend" (But it is still just a DIGITAL sanple on you Harddrive and "lossless" will still only sample @ soundcard level! no lower than 1Bit and a max of 9.5 Mbit/s Real world sound has alot higher Resolution!
    see now you are just seeing what you want to see and read this is OLD Hash.
    read the other posts .
    And lossless is not TRUE sawell 1Bit is 1 Bit and True sound can go alot smaller in part than 1Bit and compression is another thing.
    once you compress you just killed True sound and Quality.
    but we can go arround about this for ever but im not.
    im Smarter than this.

    as I sed the point of my post was for the every day peeps.
    AND WAS this.


    The point is that if you have a **** load of mp3's you can convert them to the mp4 format @ the PROPER Bitrate for the file you are going to convert. and SAVE SPACE AND have the SAME sound Quality as the Mp3 you started with.
    and you can still play them on a car pc if it uses media player as its core.
    The Point You are Trying to Rip out of this Is
    MORE Songs In your Car computer or On a CD up 2X more.

    i will post no more on this unless you show me HARD DATA .with a lab spectrum analiser.
    and at that you will not hear the diff

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    Quote Originally Posted by frodobaggins
    Quote Originally Posted by radioman193
    ok then. now thats all out in the open next SLAM?
    with a point i hope.
    somebody with a good IQ over 42 please.
    *sigh*
    I'd hardly say that was a "SLAM" of anyone, if anything, you got your *** handed to you on a silver platter. You should be grateful and give up now, while you're not too far behind, because if you continue down this road, you're going to lose any other kind of credability you might have had on these forums.

    Frodo (or me) aren't really the people to pick a fight with, you'll end up losing (i've been around on forums where something stupid will get you flamed MUCH more than you have so far, we're going easy on you at the moment.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Confused
    I'd hardly say that was a "SLAM" of anyone, if anything, you got your *** handed to you on a silver platter. You should be grateful and give up now, while you're not too far behind, because if you continue down this road, you're going to lose any other kind of credability you might have had on these forums.

    Frodo (or me) aren't really the people to pick a fight with, you'll end up losing (i've been around on forums where something stupid will get you flamed MUCH more than you have so far, we're going easy on you at the moment.


    Garry <--- See, I'm still keeping it amicable, for now.
    and yes you have loss with "lossless" its >compressed< to a >Digital file< then converted back or "opend" you record with a soundcard(But it is still just a DIGITAL sanple on you Harddrive and "lossless" will still only sample @ soundcard level! no lower than 1Bit and a max of 9.5 Mbit/s Real world sound has alot higher Resolution!

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