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    funny how all this talk is about shaving 10s of boot time and hibernate time.

    OSX has always been a sleep/wake king of speed. But alas the lack of a frontend is what keeps apples out of cars.

    OSX is better than M$ for media, always has been and always will. But lack of software, always the arguing case, just plain sucks.

    NO flaming wars here, just pointing out that M$ is the worst thing to put into a car, but the cheapest, easiest and most popular.

    If you know linux you can do what you want, if you know OSX u can do what you want to a smaller extent. M$ lets you do what they want first, then what you want.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sdashiki
    NO flaming wars here, just pointing out that M$ is the worst thing to put into a car, but the cheapest, easiest and most popular.
    and has the most support, currently. So, this makes it the worst...Hmm...Spoken like a true Mac. biggot.
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    this is not a flame

    as far as comparing a mac to a machine running windows macs don't have any software support and that puts them pretty far down on my list. What really makes a mac better for media? is it the hardware? no, i think in general my pc has a better choice of video and sound cards. is it RISC? no that probably wouldn't have much to do with it. perhaps its the fact that all of the artsy peple who use macs do it on a mac to be different. as far as macs being the sleep wake king ... to make any g4 or g5 usable it has to have at least 1.5gb of ram or more because it keeps all the freaking programs running for multitasking. (how many people here multitask in their car to the extent of needing 10 programs open. all this ram is just going to suck power and make it take an assload of time to resume from hibernation. just because OSX is based upon a unix variant don't even think about comparing it to the might linux shame on you
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    well u cant put a G5 in a car, and why the hell would you?

    Its like i always say to people who ask me what kind of computer to buy "What are you going to use it for?"

    If you do digital video and DVDs and MPEG2 compression you must use a mac, otherwise you work in a SG workstation environment and shouldnt really be talking to the likes of me. but no you wont do any of that in the car.

    But since openGL and vector graphics are built into the OSX frameworks, a GUI would be far more easily implemented and IMO "prettier" in that a good 3d interface (interpret as motion menus and NOT a 3d environment when you must "travel" forward back left and right to play music etc) would be a welcome change to flat skinnable media frontends.

    What I meant about macs being good for media was the way in which the data is handled by the OS and the processors, MP3 compression/decompression and MPG2 co/dec are always quicker ona good G4.

    NOw as for 1.5GB of ram benig the minimum to run a G5 at all? Ive had 512 in my G5 for 4 months now (upgrading to 2.5GB this week coincidentally) and I have had no problems in speed or multitasking.

    As for multitasking, macs do it because its how workflow in the media world goes. You got PS and Final Cut and DVD Studio Pro, and now Motion all open together so u can quickly go back and forth and work without lag. Now if thats not a smart way to work I dunno what is.

    For all of those of you who just say that their is no software support dont look much further cuz you wont ever use a Mac, cuzs they hippie evil or something. Im working on a frontend for myself and anyone else who wants it. Just cuz their isnt someone here to hold your hand RIGHT NOW doesnt mean macs should be written off.

    I think the sleep/wake thing is a HUGE deal in carputers and the forums here attest to that with OPUS threads aplenty.

    Dont ***** about macs vs pcs, what are you Bill Gates "yes" man? That was like so 10yrs ago...
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    Well, if you use linux, you can run all your linux & windows software(wine emulation), plus you can get faster boot times by recompiling a smaller kernel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SouL-FoRTuNe
    Well, if you use linux, you can run all your linux & windows software(wine emulation), plus you can get faster boot times by recompiling a smaller kernel.

    I am a huge proponent of linux, but I have to say that this statement is incorrect. You cannot run all of your windows software in linux. Wine, while a great program, still can only run about 40% of the windows software out there at all, and there are still several glitches when the programs do run. Please do not expect to build a linux system and run any windows software on it without problems.

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    Regarding the wine issue, I just wanted to mention that Destinator, Routis, and iGuidance all run fine in Wine and don't take any longer to start or run any slower than in Windows XP. Just an FYI, in case people were wondering... I was very surprised to see that they all worked. Wine has definitely come a long way since the early days...
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    GPS software on Linux, the big problem and the big business, when!!!!!! About wine,.... if you work a lot of hours on you linux system in order to run windows applications, just install windows and go...

    I prefer linux but with a decent GPS software like tomtom.

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    Thumbs up I'm not trying to perpetuate this i swear

    Quote Originally Posted by sdashiki
    i love macs, blah blah blah thumb up my butt
    with saying that about the gui ... the fact is that there isn't such an interface, and well there never really will be one. would love to see some screenshots of your current project.

    well instead of just telling me that the processor and OS are better at handling mp3s why don't you explain to me why that is. what actual part makes it better at doing so? if i told you that the a chevette was the fastest car in the world wouldn't it help if i also explained to you that it had a 502 shoehorned in it.

    if you haven't had any issue with multitasking speed, then why are you wasting your money on 2.5 gig of ram? sounds fishy

    for the sleep wake thing i don't know why you are even mentioning the opus you seem to not understand the connection between ram and hibernation.

    from the way i see it YOU STARTED this mac vs pc bull**** in your post on 09-03-2004, 02:22 PM, you should go read it if you didn't the first time.

    I'm really not that bad of a guy, i promise. I'm not pro-microsoft, I'm not really anti-mac, I'm just pro-logic. this machine is the only box i currently have a single microsoft product running on, because i need them for school. otherwise i use gentoo and fc1. macs really do have great uses. i was part of a two man team that administered roughly 300 macs (mostly g4s, i macs, and eventually emacs) and 15 pcs in a domain ... simply put most of our time was spent dealing with the pcs. the second cluster i build was out of 27 G4s running black lab.

    so dont ***** about macs vs pcs. what are you some kind of steve jobs "yes" man? That was like so 10years ago...

    p.s. in 2002 i had a g4 ghettoed in my car because i had a few extras ... so i guess you really weren't the first, sorry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bpierce815
    I am a huge proponent of linux, but I have to say that this statement is incorrect.

    i would have to agree i remember back when i got my first linux box running some turbolinux ... wine was such a ***** and it just kept on *** raping me over and over. my *** is still kind of raw so i haven't really tried it much since then. vmware is a decent alterative for me but really just going to be a pain in the *** in a car.
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