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    Lightbulb Windows 3.11 ??

    Anyone use windows 3.11 with sucess in their mp3 car player? I would think that it would load faster. And scandisk would not be a problem. Any info would be nice

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    Originally posted by meron:
    Anyone use windows 3.11 with sucess in their mp3 car player? I would think that it would load faster. And scandisk would not be a problem. Any info would be nice
    I thought about it but decided not to because of the software support. Windows Media Player (the core software in my player...details to follow in a few weeks when the whole thing is completed) is available, but crippled. I couldn't use 32 bit VB to program, which eliminated ActiveX, which is how I control Media Player. Windows 3.1x is also not the best multimedia platform and can be a little unstable (depends on the software). Also, you have the FAT16 limitation, meaning you can't use a drive larger than 2Gigs (2048MB) without having multiple partitions. And at that size FAT16 is very innefficient.
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    I thought about using Win3.1 too because I found a StreetAtlas USA CD at Goodwill and thought it'd work great with the LCD. But DOS is still the better choice because it boots faster, it's stable, and it's small. And DOS is extremely easy to program for. Less conflicts and crap to have to worry about.

    Good points about Win 3.1:
    It's multitasking
    More software

    Bad points about Win 3.1:
    MS made it
    FAT16
    Boots slow
    MS made it

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    Um, this may be a surprise to you, but MS made DOS too. (since you seemed to think DOS was a good thing, but MS made stuff isnt =)

    Anyway, I cant think of any Win 3.1 MP3 players programs, or any way to control it that is specificly Win 3.1. So you woud either have to write everything yourself, or boot to win 3.1 but use DOS programs like mpxplay, and for that it woul be better to just use DOS.

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    Not that I'm all for using Win3.1, but...

    You can still use FAT32 with Win3.1:

    1) Install the disk drive as the slave in a Win98 system.

    2) Use the FDISK utility and partition the drive as FAT32

    3) Format the disk from Win98 explorer and tell it to copy the system files.

    4) Make a directory called DOS on the new drive and copy everything from c:\windows\command on the Win98 boot drive to the DOS directory you just created.

    5) Switch the new disk to be primary master.

    6) Reboot

    7) Install Win3.1 from floppies or CD.

    Now you have a bootable Win3.1 system with FAT32!


    You can also install a patch for Win3.1 to make it able to run 32-bit apps, it's called WIN32.

    Anyway, I haven't tried actually doing this, but I just wrote this to show that it is _possible_ to use Win3.1 with FAT32 and run 32-bit apps. After all, it does multitask better than DOS and boots a lot faster than Win95/98




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    Has this been done? I think I'll try that out. If I can run 32bit apps, then it should work out great. I can make a VB player that would look a lot better than anything I could write in C.

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    I mean C in DOS.

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    i think this post should have been put into software discussion...i'm not trying to be an ***, but it is definitely not a hardware related issue

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    Originally posted by jjohnson:
    You can also install a patch for Win3.1 to make it able to run 32-bit apps, it's called WIN32.
    Anyway, I haven't tried actually doing this, but I just wrote this to show that it is _possible_ to use Win3.1 with FAT32 and run 32-bit apps. After all, it does multitask better than DOS and boots a lot faster than Win95/98
    You can run SOME 32Bit apps in Win 3.1, not all. Exclude any 32Bit app that uses ActiveX, which is most of them nowadays.
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    Originally posted by Gutter:
    Has this been done? I think I'll try that out. If I can run 32bit apps, then it should work out great. I can make a VB player that would look a lot better than anything I could write in C.
    You can't really use VB to make 32bit apps to run in 16bit Windows with Win32s installed. I can't imagine writing the low level code required to decompress an MP3 in VB, so I would assume that you would be using the Media Player COM object or something similar. This can't be done under Win 3.1 even if Win32s are installed as it does not support ActiveX (it does do OLE, which is an older standard similar to ActiveX, but ActiveX is not backward compatible). Use a stripped down version of Win95.
    Player: Pentium 166MMX, Amptron 598LMR MB w/onboard Sound, Video, LAN, 10.2 Gig Fujitsu Laptop HD, Arise 865 DC-DC Converter, Lexan Case, Custom Software w/Voice Interface, MS Access Based Playlists
    Car: 1986 Mazda RX-7 Turbo (highly modded), 1978 RX-7 Beater (Dead, parting out), 2001 Honda Insight
    "If one more body-kitted, cut-spring-lowered, farty-exhausted Civic revs on me at an intersection, I swear I'm going to get out of my car and cram their ridiculous double-decker aluminium wing firmly up their rump."

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