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    Question win9x Startup and Shutdown question from a newbie

    How does everybody out there Shutdown their computers?? Just turn them off and disable scandisk on startup or use a programmatic shutdown?

    I assume that if you were going to just turn it off you would have an external switch up front near the driver's seat?

    Are there ever any problems created by not shutting down windows? Corrupted files (mp3's, winamp playlists, etc)????

    Thanks to all who reply!

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    I have my computer in my trunk plugged into an inverter. The inverter switch and computer switch are always on. I have power to the inverter connected to the battery. I installed a switch in the inverter power line and mounted the switch in my dash. When I want to turn the computer on or off I simply use the dash mounted switch. Works great. No damage to the computer or drive by not doing formal windows shutdown.

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    I use a dash mounted switch for power.

    To shut it down, I press the "SHT DWN" key on the keypad, which calls the ShutDownWindows() API call to bring down Windows properly. Then I hit the switch on the dash to cut power.

    This way, I can leave the player on when the car is off. Very useful.

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    I also use a key combo that does a ShutDownWindows() API call and then I cut the power at a switch mounted in my console.

    note: If you don't know how to program there are plugins out there that will do this (mine will anyway).

    As for damage, I have a 6 gig Fujitsu drive that gets it's boot sector damaged every time it's not shut down properly. It rarely causes file damage but it can (think of your registry.. ouch!). Now in extremely rare instances a impropor shutdown can even totally trash a drive. Larger drives (over 10 gigs) are more prone to these types of damage but it can happen to one of any size.

    Now in all honestly, I wouldn't worry about it much but if you can try to shut it down with a program before you cut the power.

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    Blackwind: The registry is not stored in the boot sector.

    Also, explain how larger drives are more easily damaged by an improper Windows shut down.

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    What I plan on doing is extending the jumper for power up to the front, along with the hard drive led jumper. Then I'm going to extend the inverter switch up to the front as well. Once I have all these wires up to the front of the car, I plan on mounting a little control box in my cash tray that has the inverter power switch, the pc power switch, and the hard drive LED. With windows ME you can set the power button to, sleep, poweroff, or hibernate (I plan on using hibernate). I also plan on wiring the inverter directly to the battery.

    Hopefully the final outcome will be like this. Turn on the car, hit the inverter switch, hit the pc power switch. When I plan on turning off the pc, hit the power switch and flip the inverter switch. and with it being right in the ash tray, easy access.

    I just hope it works as planned.

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    Okay, maybe I'm playing with fire, but I've had my 30 gig in the car for six months now and have turned it off without Windows shutdown literally hundreds of times with no problems.

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