Thread: What programming language?

umm... I've programmed in VB6, Java, C++, and .NET (VB.Net for work and C# for my hobby projects). No one here has seen the CF code (besides the programmer) so we can't really judge how well it's programmed. Not to slam the guy that wrote it, but I'm just saying. You never know. I've never had speed problems with my .NET apps. Like xBrady said already, to say that .NET is slow because CF is slow is a bit of a jump.

BTW, here's Quake II .NET: http://www.vertigosoftware.com/Quake2.htm
and here's Quake II Java: http://www.bytonic.de/html/jake2.html

If they can do that in .NET and Java, I'm sure you can make a very fast front end.

As another example, I'm currently dabbling in Mozilla developement. I've made a front end using an existing skin which loads up instantly and the response is a lot faster than any other front end I've tested so far. it's written entirely in XUL and JavaScript besides a few XPCOM components for XM and interfacing with the OS (hibernate, standby, etc). it runs in FireFox.

Originally Posted by lastberserker

Never mind, RR is fast

Exactly!

Originally Posted by SFiorito

it runs in FireFox.

Now that's cool

Originally Posted by 0l33l

Originally Posted by lastberserker

Never mind, RR is fast

Exactly!
Now that's cool

Yet I'm not using it - this spinning logo will drive me mad in no time

Object Cobol

Originally Posted by frodobaggins

Object Cobol

Perl! oh, wait, here is one you'd love: Lisp!!!

Originally Posted by lastberserker

Yet I'm not using it - this spinning logo will drive me mad in no time

You have the wrong version of Flash... that's why its doing it.

Originally Posted by KyleYankan

Hi everyone. I've been a programmer for a few years, as a hobby. I mostly do PERL, and I'm pretty good with it. I'm not too good with OOP. I've learned some C++ in school. I learned some C++ out of school. I am proficient with C++, even though I use my book when programming with it. Also, anything I've needed to do in C++, I can do in Perl twice as fast, so I don't have alot of practice with it.

So my question is: What language should I learn? I want one that is robust enough to do low-level programming (IE parallel port), and still have easy to use GUI. I heard VB is good, but I've also heard it's like selling your sould to bill gates. :-/

Any thoughts?

Depends why your learning a new language. If employment is your goal, C++, Java are good choices. If it's to learn, you could look at Ruby,Python, Scheme /Lisp. Not saying the latter are not in demand, not really sure to be honest what the current demand is. I don't follow such things as close as I used to.

I started off with ASM, C, C++ then Perl. Maybe it's the low level start I had, but for me, Perl is the perfect fit. If your not using OO with it (or closures for that matter), you've still got quite a bit of space to explore. Once of the things I love about Perl is how expressive it is. I can write Perl like C, or Lispish, etc. If you know C already, you might want to take a look at the XS inteface or Inline::C so you can include C code to handle the low level, time critical portions. As far as the UI stuff, you might want to look at the SDL bindings for Perl. Once I get rolling with the car computer, the plan is to write everything in Perl (maybe some C via XS) and using the SDL library for the UI.

One more Perl note, if you haven't seen it yet, check out perlmonks.com , an awesome place to further your Perl knowledge.

OK, based on that last post I think I'll stick with perl. I'm very familair with it, I just need to immerse myself in projects once more. Maybe work on my own front end this weekend or something. Please feel free to continue posting, and letting others know your opinions.

Originally Posted by KyleYankan

OK, based on that last post I think I'll stick with perl. I'm very familair with it, I just need to immerse myself in projects once more. Maybe work on my own front end this weekend or something. Please feel free to continue posting, and letting others know your opinions.

I haven't actually gotten around to running it yet, but there's a perl based OBDII logger for use with Elmscan based scantools here