Is that true? I thought GPS was worldwide.Originally Posted by RoyN
Yeah but other than cheapo mouse GPSs there really isnt much except for OEM gps...
The comparison threads mostly point out the bu-303 with the best price-performance ratio....
the garmin 15l is about 2 times the price of the BU-303 and performs 100x better... I notice this espetially since I live in very dense area, and gps is inherently lower signal in the souther hemisphere
Is that true? I thought GPS was worldwide.Originally Posted by RoyN
The ultimate CarPC - Wow!
From the sound of it though, there are plenty of developers and programmers that would love to spend some time working with the OEM software to make it usable. What if the developers let people on this website work on the software to make it usable on PC's, different setups, embed it on different frontends, etc. It can't hurt them to lend us the software to further develop for them, and payment to those who improve the OEM software (make it work on PC's) they just get a copy of the software, and the company then gets to sell it on their own. I think a lot of people here would be willing and I don't see how that hurts the companies that sell the software.Originally Posted by RoyN
Dazuck, I would love that to be a reality... however I'm pretty sure it is jus wishful thinking...
Say the lexus nav system, regarded very highly... it is an asset to lexus... the profit from selling 50 cars with that system is much higher than the profit for selling many GPS software licenses... But why get the lexus nav system for 2000 what I can get a carpc with lexus nav for 1500 or so? or even 2000 (but with mp3, bla bla)... damn, if I am in between the lexus and another car but the lexus nav system is so much nicer why get the lexus ust for nav (ok, not many people would use this as a decision point but if 50 a year do, then it might already make a difference) why get the lexus for the nav system, if their kickass system can be put in any car???
You see, although I would love for us to have some GREAT or even ABOVE-DECENT gps stuff out there the car manufacturers have not much to gain, and they are large corporations, change is difficult for them... this would be easier for a small company which can be dynamic and proactive and react quickly to small market niches like carpcs, but car manufacturers - they are the opposite...
I join you in your positive thoughts but I'm unfortuantely skeptical!
Very happy with Iguidance, it is accurate, fast and gives me everything we need to get the kids around. It is great for shortcuts in traffic. I really like the favorite function where all the parks, fields, and lacross areas are all set up.
Out comes a keyboard and the wife can type where we want to go on the fly quickly. How do the OEM Navs do this?
I have the 2.1 verson so I update my weather as I leave the drive way. Tweaked with an ini file the street names are large, there are several different color schemes and you can change the pointers.
OEM GPS must have come a long way in the last 1-2 years. My father has GPS in his new caddy and it is crap. I think on some cars its probably better, others are worse. So do I have to by a BMW or Lexus to get a somewhat better Nav? LOL
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What you say makes sense...I just think there's a way around it. What if (using your example) Lexus had the rights to this newly developed software. They could use it has huge incentive to buy a used lexus: when selling "certified pre-owned" Lexus' and Toyotas, give the option to install a "Lexus carputer" in the dash. I don't know if they can install their factory one after the fact in used cars, so this would be an additional incentive for people to buy their used cars. They could offer an option to install one on any old lexus or toyota for an extra fee (so it doesn't kill the sales of their mainstream sytstem). I don't know if any of this is plausible, it would just be nice.Originally Posted by RoyN
We have been working on integrating maps for the last 3 years. We orginally purchased the Map Point SDK and if you have Map Point Loaded on your system it will be useable on our Maps tab. Unfortuantly we were never able to get GPS to work with the maps so that took away most of the features we wanted to add. End result: We spent lots of time and money and all we got was a really basic mapping package with no GPS support, that still costs as much as XP License.
We gave up on trying to do this. A couple weeks ago I ran across a project done by frodobaggins and XBrady and ever since I've been thinking about how I can put GPS/MAPS back into our program with the added benifit of real time tracking, this could be something really useful. I am about to test map monkey, after reading through the forums and seeing screen shots I was very impressed.
But after reading this tread it seems Freedrive and MapMonkey aren't as good as OEM packages. If everyone is getting the maps from the same place what are we missing?
Anyone want to post screen shots of the most OEM looking Carputer GPS?
Spent all my money on carputers now I have to work a real job.
First of all, lexus DOES have the right to the software, they need not develop it any further, they have what they need and want.Originally Posted by dazuck
The next problem is the "Lexus Carputer". Look at how much work goes into a Carputer now. On top of that, lexus will have to service the system. While Lexus can certainly create a bulletproof system, they already have one. If they wanted to offer a Lexus Carputer, they could offer a retrofit of the lexus nav system. Lexus has the resources to produce a retrofit unit/or even units that will fir older cars. They don't, because there is no market for it, OR, it is too much of a pain. And, if they offered a retrofit kit, they wouldn't have to create a PC type software to run on it.
I guess my point is, that if they wanted to offer a "Lexus Carputer" for older/used vehicles, they could do it already, with out producing a PC type software.
Also, big companies count all thier beans. Not just the ones that come in, but the ones that go out as well. Development costs, installation, component cost, maintanance costs, everything. I think we can all see that it is just not "Cost effective" to develop a PC software, and/or sell Lexus Carputers. At least not right now.
Trust me, I wish a company would, but I don't think it is ever gonna happen.
"OEM looking Carputer GPS" is very subjective.Originally Posted by 12Vsystems.com
So far, the best option I currently see is IG with Boris/leelo's IGSkinner program. It is still in the works, but IG can be made to have Large Font type, which is a great advantage. When I first saw Routis and IG (They were basically the same, but now Routis has gone the way of the Dodo Bird) I thought they were very similar to my Lexus Navi in my 2000 GS. IG 2.1.1 has made great strides in mapping, and also has made some changes that make it better for car use then other programs. And again, with IG Skinner, it is getting better and better.
I hope Boris/leelo huries up and finsihed coding the next version.