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    Cannot believe that nobody has mentioned Python. (or any other scripting type language for that matter) You are probably developing specialized applications, not your own operating system. C/C++ and even Java is overkill.

    As an engineer you are probably not developing commercial apps for the general public, just in house stuff. It does not make sense to spend 5 to 10 times as much effort developing the software.

    My favorite combination of languages is Python with C/C++. Python has so many libraries available that I can complete 90% of what I want to do with it. If there comes a time where I want to use a C/C++ library, I create some sort of interface to the parts I need, create a python wrapper with SWIG, and then I am working in python again.

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    I can tell it's still going to be difficult for me to figure out what language to work with...
    But don't take it from me! here's a quote from a real, live newbie:
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    I am learning buttloads just by searching on this forum. I've learned 2 big things so far: 1-it's been done before, and 2-if it hasn't, there is a way to do it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by evandude
    I can tell it's still going to be difficult for me to figure out what language to work with...
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    I just spent a while looking over a nice C# tutorial and I think I'm convinced. so far it seems like a hybrid of visual basic and C++... very object-oriented and easy to comprehend, and the GUI stuff seems very simple like it is in VB... except in C, instead of BASIC, which is a big plus. by the end of reading through the tutorial, i understood most everything, just feeling like I need to actually practice it to get the hang of everything.

    it became obvious with VC++ that for API/GUI type stuff, there was a whole lot of copy-pasting existing code and looking up parameters and stuff, because there was too much for a normal person to ever remember (i mean, it took like 70 lines of very ugly code just to pop up an empty window... let alone add any buttons or anything) and in C# it seems there's not nearly as much to deal with.
    But don't take it from me! here's a quote from a real, live newbie:
    Quote Originally Posted by Viscouse
    I am learning buttloads just by searching on this forum. I've learned 2 big things so far: 1-it's been done before, and 2-if it hasn't, there is a way to do it.
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    That's why I like Delphi. All you have to do is open the IDE and the click the "Run" button and you already have a blank form. You can create the whole GUI without using anything but the mouse. When you are ready to code, just doble click a button or whatever and it makes the procedure that is run when you click the button automatically. The code completion and help database will answer any questions you have very quickly. Delphi components and ActivX components are super easy to just drop on your form, set the properties if needed, and use in your code.

    I wish Delphi was more popular.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RPM_VR4
    I wish Delphi was more popular.
    So do I.

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    Quote Originally Posted by evandude
    it became obvious with VC++ that for API/GUI type stuff, there was a whole lot of copy-pasting existing code and looking up parameters and stuff, because there was too much for a normal person to ever remember (i mean, it took like 70 lines of very ugly code just to pop up an empty window... let alone add any buttons or anything) and in C# it seems there's not nearly as much to deal with.
    Were you using MFC or strictly the WINAPI? With just the win API, most things will take alot of lines of code to do, however, using visual studio and MFC, you don't have to type or remember much more code then you would using VB or C# as MFC encapsulates all of the low level windowing tasks and the visual studio IDE will create templates for everything you need automatically. You can use the resourse editor and drag and drop controls and put code behind them just like the other languages visual studio supports. You may end up seeing more code with C++, but you don't necessarily have to type or cut and paste it yourself so it shouldn't take you much longer to actually get a window created once you learn the language. C++ has the highest learning curve of all the other supported visual studio languages, but once you do learn it, you'll find its just as easy to use for your typical GUI programs as the others.
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    Doesn't Delphi use Pascal (or a derivative of it)???? Geez....having flashbacks of high school Comp Sci class.

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    Yep. I took Pascal in High School CS too . Pascal rocks!

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