Mappoint + Netstumbler + RoadRunner?

**kiltjim** · 07-04-2005, 02:03 PM

I am trying out RR, and really like what it does with Mappoint. However, I really like Netstumbler's master script because it allows me to wardrive and to have some sort of navigation software at the same time.

So, is there a way that I can use both Netstumbler and RoadRunner at the same time, using the same instance of Mappoint?

Here's what I was hoping to do (for those familiar with the script in question):
Use a port replicating program and both NS, and RR would have GPS.
Use mappoint, but turn off position tracking.
NS would then plot the found APs.
RR would be responsible for tracking me, and handling the directions.

Or even better, have Road runner just read the information coming off of Netstumbler and not even bother with a script in the middle.

**Laidback** · 07-04-2005, 04:45 PM

Have you tried it? It may work anyway. Embed NetStumbler, start MapPoint then start NetStumbler and the script should look for an instance of MapPoint already running and do it's stuff....

**kiltjim** · 07-05-2005, 01:37 AM

Nope, tried it, and it doesn't see Mappoint running. Might this be because MapPoint is running embedded too? It launches its own instance of MapPoint. And then says that the com port is unavailable. Go figure...

**guino** · 07-05-2005, 02:21 AM

If there's any kind of SDK/API that Netstmbler provides with information on found networks, I can give it a try -- I've never used netstumbler... so you'd have to tell me exactly what you're trying to do other than just show hotspots on the map..

**kiltjim** · 07-05-2005, 01:09 PM

Thats all I am trying to do. I just want the hotspots to show up as I drive. If I was interested in any of the other stuff that NS can do, I could always stop, and bring up NS screen.

So how can I get the instance of mappoint that is running to be seen by Netstumbler? Or is there another way around this? Like having Roadrunner read the NS1 file? Like the script in reverse?

**guino** · 07-05-2005, 01:46 PM

if this NS1 file has the GPS locations for the hotspots I can easily load it when it changes then draw the pushpins in mappoint.. other than that, I'd have to get some SDK/API from netstumbler to be able to draw it... I do not believe I can "share" mappoint with any other applications because it is simply a control in RR, plus I'd have to know how NS is looking for it..

**kiltjim** · 07-06-2005, 12:32 AM

Excellent. Here's what I found. I know the NS1 file has the GPS coordinates for each AP, and a ton of other stuff.

Here's what I found: http://www.stumbler.net/ns1files.html

Along with the coordinates, it also contains the strength, the name, and some other stuff. If it is possible to add the APs to the map in realtime, could they be added as a POI something like a restaurant? The name of the AP, with strength and encryption displayed like the address and phone number?

(By the way, drove home from work tonight, and used the routing feature for the first time. Incredible!)

**kiltjim** · 07-06-2005, 12:37 AM

Tomorrow I will take a quick drive around my house and find some APs and make a new clean NS1 file, that way you will have something to play with if you need it.

Would that help?

**guino** · 07-06-2005, 12:59 AM

That's pretty decent info... I was exactly going to ask you for a sample ns1 file.. I have to see about how I can display on the map -- I know I can display a Pushpin on the location, but not sure about text etc, besides, there may be a lot of them close together (which could cover a lot of map) ... hopefully an icon that when clicked shows the info would be the best thing.. I don't believe it is possible to "search" or display those on the routing screens -- it should be possible to make them accessible through a "favorites-like" screen.. this is all speculation right now.. I need to look at that ns1 file to see how feaseble this actually is..

**kiltjim** · 07-06-2005, 01:08 AM

I wasn't hoping to search them, or even have them there all the time. I was just thinking that if they were a POI like a restaurant, or gas station, I could go into that menu that lets me select them, and show just APs, or ignore them depending whether I am driving to work, or wardriving.

Speaking of, can I change these options in RR? Or do I have to open MapPoint, and change it there? (Completely unrelated, I know...)