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    Question Winamp shuffle algorithm

    Is it just me or does Winamp play the same songs and artists over and over again. I have adjusted some of the settings within winamp but it does not seem to make a difference. I have a modest collection of about 3000 songs and I seem to be hearing about 100 in random order while every once in awhile I will get a treat.
    All of my songs are added to the winamp library and loaded to a playlist.

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    What version of winamp are you using? AFAIK, the 2.xx versions do something like creating a random (shuffled) playlist once, and then playing that same playlist every time, and the newer (5.xx?) versions have an "actual" random function where they randomize it on-the-fly. I've been using 2.xx because I couldn't get the vis from 5.xx to embed properly, and I have the same issue with random play.
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    If that were the case, winamp wouldn't play the same song until it reached the end of the list. I am intersted whether others have the same problem or a solution.

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    i've got the same problem with winamp...some times, it even plays the same song twice in a row
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    Quote Originally Posted by evandude View Post
    I've been using 2.xx because I couldn't get the vis from 5.xx to embed properly, and I have the same issue with random play.
    when using winamp 5 you have to set the skin to classic mode and not modern skins to get the vis window to embed properly. Thats assuming that you are using Road Runner as your front end.
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    i ran winamp 2.95 for years in my car - the random sucked.

    i now run 5.x random is actually random

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    Just a thought but if winamp doesn't close properley it wont save the settings. Sounds odd tho. My one runs perfectley and seems to shuffle without fail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sheepy View Post
    Just a thought but if winamp doesn't close properley it wont save the settings. Sounds odd tho. My one runs perfectley and seems to shuffle without fail.

    Let us know what happens!
    Shuffle "works". Just not very random with a subset of of entire playlist played.

    You know, I wonder if the older versions have a limitation on how effectively they can manage a playlist. For example, winamp will manage a playlist of 500 songs very well but beyond that, it can't keep track of what it has played so it grabs repeats. I still need to try 5.13 to see if that makes it better.

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    Cool less than 500

    Hi all,

    One of you mentioned that random seems to work when you have less than 500 songs. I don't think this is true. When I was still using the older version of winamp, I had a playlist of less than 500 songs, and I still seemed to hear the same set few all the time; once in a while I would get a different song. When I looked through my songs, I realised that there were some I almost never heard and a set bunch that I almost always heard.

    A friend of mine said that the more often a song is played the more likely the randomizer is to pick it making for a perpetuating cycle of those previously played being more likely to play again. Not sure this would be the only factor, however, since otherwise it would seem that one song should stand out among them all as the most commonly played, rather than a set few.

    Anyways...I agree - the newer version does seem to randomize much better. I have a playlist now of over six thousand songs, and it seems to randomize just fine.

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    so its sounding like the randomization issue is solved by updating to the 5.xx version of winamp. i was going to look more into fixing that randomization issue, then i saw this. sweet! i usually used to set my playlist to random.

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