View Poll Results: Is Streetdeck worth $200

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  • Yes and I already own the software

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  • Yes but I cant afford $200

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  • NO and I would never pay the $200 or even $50

    3 8.82%
  • NO buy I would pay $50 or possibly $100

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    Don't bother, folks. This guy doesn't get that Streetdeck isn't truly a front end for the DIY'ers but instead for a *mass* market. Selling 300 copies of Streetdeck at a profit of $50 ain't gonna cut it for them. Try something like 300,000 or 3,000,000. A year.

    They are playing in a completely different ballpark. Lowering the price of Streetdeck to anyone who puts a DIY computer in their car will destroy their profit margin. How do you answer when a company says, "Hey! You just licensed this thing with hardware and software for $1,500 and you're selling it to anyone with a PC for $50?!"

    Plus, if you actually pay for software, a DIY setup is truly a labor of love. Let's say you really aren't a DIY'er but you really want a PC system in the car. You drop $100 bucks for iGuidance and then install Road Runner. You muck with the settings, try to get the bluetooth to work, try to get your XM to work, try to get your OBDII to work, yadda, yadda, yadda. Even if you don't value your time that much, you'll put in $100 worth of effort pretty quickly.

    $200 for a plug and play front end that does pretty much everything doesn't sound too bad at all.
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    How much is a copy of Mappoint 2006? $250?
    CoPilot? $179
    iGuidance? $109
    Destinator? $105
    Those only do nav.

    So you are paying between $-50 to $95 for the rest of the software that is SD. Seems like a fair price to pay for something as polished as SD. Now only if they would make a ASIO plugin for WMP
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    Quote Originally Posted by RedGTiVR6 View Post
    Microsoft Map Point cost
    Voice Licenses
    Media Licenses
    Yahoo! Licenses
    DVD Livenses
    MP3 Licenses
    etc....

    Those things aren't free.

    The price difference between the full and the lite version should give you an idea as to the cost of the navigation and voices on our end...

    $50!?

    Seriously?

    Heck, never mind the fact that there are a ton of folks who buy this software who don't even spend any time on these forums...why? They bought a CarPC from a Car Audio shop and had it installed. They wanted it to be seamless and didn't want to spend the time researching how to put a PC in their car.

    Bascially, what you're telling us here at StreetDeck, is that those people who work at this company, don't deserve to get paid? Those that have families don't deserve to support their families? Chuck, who has spent YEARS developing this software, doesn't deserve any kind of recognition or repayment for his time and efforts? Those of us who spend countless hours trying to make this forum a better place, modifying the forums to allow for bug reporting, answering emails, and spending time on threads like this...don't deserve any kind of acknowledgement for our time?

    Do you really think that coming into this forum with such a hostile attitude right out of the box is going to get anything done? Perhaps if you had come on here with at least an attitude that you were willing to talk, you might have been recieved differently. Instead, you came on here swinging...ready to knock someone out without caring who it was.

    Just one question, how old are you?

    Im 27 so no im not a kid. I graduated from baker college of michigan in sterling heights.
    Maybe if you read my post where I linked my website you would have jumped on their real quick and see your talking to a pioneer in the gamming industry so feeding me all this BS about getting paid does nuthing for me.

    I barely make any money at all from my 2.5year time investment, my baby, and oh did you see I have my own forums where I constantly offer free tech support?

    Did you see Im a one man team doing the job of at least 5 people including all my own web support / design / sales / tech support / and so much more. Even my website has a ton of time in it, its the first and only website to run phpbb with cat heirarchy and paypal ipn mod custom modded by me.

    I understand "Chuck" wants to eat but god damn leave some for the rest of us, "chuck" must be a big man with a big appetite. How much you guys makin off this stuff? $60k + each a year ? Must be nice. Me I would rather make less and be praised for what I do instead of charging a premium so my pockets can get fat. And the people you speak of that got shafted into a system that already came preloaded with your premium price software are not even in this equation considering my whole argument is about the DIY community now are they? Nope didnt think so. Charge them $100000000000 for all I care.

    My name over there is burners, Im somewhat of an icon in the mmorpg world but not trying to come on here boasting but instead trying to make a point that if you think you are bsing someone about what it takes to desing software your barking up the wrong tree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarquePervert View Post
    Of course it's not going anywhere...
    What did you expect when you post a rant that does nothing except whine about the price?

    As a software dev, you must understand the licensing of all the functionality that goes into the software. You call up MicroShaft and ask them how much it would cost you to use the MapPoint data and navigation engine in a third-party app.
    How much is it to icense MP3 playback these days?
    DVD playback?

    Those costs have to be passed along to the end-user, plain and simple. They can't be given away. It's not like they could sell the software at less than cost and recoup the cost elsewhere.

    Selling hardware (particularly computer hardware) doesn't make money. The margins are so razor thin, that the only way to make money is on software
    & services.

    Hey why doesnt streetdeck let us worry about that?
    Just ask for the directory where the Nav and other software is and Ill get it on my own and point it there. But instead as far as Ive been told If I buy the lite version I cant even do that. Boooooooooooooooooooooo

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    Quote Originally Posted by gt__1 View Post
    I am going to have to agree and disagree

    i see what you are doing with the comments about getting them to drop there price.You might also be right about if they did drop there price they would probably sell 2 times as much or more and if enough people make lots of noise about it they will have a couple of looks at selling it at a lower cost. I personnally agree it is overpriced.

    But

    They are trying to run a business and making 10 % off a product is
    Very Bad for business. I am sure they pay a good amount for the NAV
    Licenses. Centrafuse is selling there base model for 125 with out built in nav
    and you can use what ever nav you want. But with nav it is 325 which sounds crazy but they say it is all the fees for the engine.

    now if it was a 1 man show just selling software from his basement im sure he could afford to sell it for $50.00 but start adding a rent for the building
    salaries for other designers and $200.00 sounds cheap i am sure they are not selling 100 000 copies where they can then consider to drop there prices or they would. From over the years they have been pretty good at giving the best prices on the market

    Id love to see a picture of their building, my guess is that its a very small group of people and there conference room is "chucks" kitchen table.

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    Final Question.

    If I buy the LITE version can I Buy whatever nav streetdeck normally uses and make it seemless later on?

    Like basically can I buy the lite version and "upgrade" it to the full version by purchasing the nav stuff seperatly when I can afford?

    If not then why not?

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    Quote Originally Posted by megahyperion View Post
    I understand "Chuck" wants to eat but god damn leave some for the rest of us, "chuck" must be a big man with a big appetite. How much you guys makin off this stuff? $60k + each a year ? Must be nice. Me I would rather make less and be praised for what I do instead of charging a premium so my pockets can get fat. And the people you speak of that got shafted into a system that already came preloaded with your premium price software are not even in this equation considering my whole argument is about the DIY community now are they? Nope didnt think so. Charge them $100000000000 for all I care.
    At this point you are becoming beligerent and quite insulting. You are making accusations and assumptions with absolutely nothing to stand on.

    60k a year? I'd be in heaven. I think we all would be.

    My name over there is burners, Im somewhat of an icon in the mmorpg world but not trying to come on here boasting but instead trying to make a point
    that if you think you are bsing someone about what it takes to desing software your barking up the wrong tree.
    No, the point I'm making is that this is not the same thing as gaming software. While I appreciate the fact that you are doing your own thing, you have no idea what this company is doing behind the scenes. What we have in the works, what deals we are working on, what technologies we are developing, etc. There is a LOT more to this than meets the eyes of this forum.

    Many people seem to believe that this forum is the sole source of our customers and our feedback, far from it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by megahyperion View Post
    Final Question.

    If I buy the LITE version can I Buy whatever nav streetdeck normally uses and make it seemless later on?

    Like basically can I buy the lite version and "upgrade" it to the full version by purchasing the nav stuff seperatly when I can afford?

    If not then why not?
    Please read the description for the lite version here: http://www.mp3car.com/vbulletin/stre...-119-00-a.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by megahyperion View Post
    My liliput 7" was $180 and my laptop for my car was $250
    Thats $430, now why in hell would I spend nearly HALF of what MY ENTIRE SYSTEM costs just for the front end ????
    Why would you spend half what your '93 Camaro is worth putting a computer in your beater in the first place?

    Spend a little less on crack and $200 might not seem so steep.

    You can spend $2k on an Eclipse deck with not even half the capabilities of a carputer. $200 for the software to pull it all together is a BARGAIN.

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    Is SD overprice? Well not really depend on how you view it.
    In this DIY hobby, yes it's over price.
    But for somebody, who need a little help rather than pocking around, no it's not.
    It's kind of the same as someone *****ing about CF being overprice.
    Is SD, CF for me? No because I don't want to spend that much money on it because I am a cheap guy. Also, either one of them offer what I want. That is why I prefer RR. Not because it is free but because it's open source and I can modify to my usage.

    At the end, the final $$ isn't going much to the developer pocket. Richmond get a share of it.
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