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    I apologize about the initial posting. My husband and I closed on our first home on Monday. In between all of the services coming out to inspect/hook up/sign up/etc. my Sprint wireless card is acting up. It will stay connected for about a minute at a time. I was trying to preview my response when I clicked post instead...then my card died and the inspector for our Certificate of Occupancy came out, then the phone guy came out, then we didn't have the DSL modem yet so he couldn't do much, then the in-laws came over with a load of furniture from the old place...and now I'm able to sit down and work some...lol

    There are a NUMBER of things I personally would like to see changed in StreetDeck...and from what I've read on these forums, I'm not the only one.

    However, I have to take a step back and ask myself if my little change request is worthy of pulling Chuck off of the work he's already doing just to make it a tiny bit easier for me to use StreetDeck...or, if it's worth it for me to live with it and hope that one day, we'll have developers lining the office asking for coding work to do on StreetDeck..hehe

    It's a small company, and it's a small but rapidly growing industry. We're forced to pick and choose where we spent the time and money in order to ensure we stay afloat. At times, that means Chuck has to do some custom development work for big clients...some of this development makes it way into StreetDeck, but some of it is completely proprietary to the customers needs. Things are going though, and boy are they going fast...should be some good stuff available soon.
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    ...and still more "whatever" you want to call them. I say bugs, you say features. You say "tomato", I say, "tomato" ;-p

    • {11/05/2007} I'm not sure who maintains the list on the wiki (which I can't find a link to at the moment), but I've tried several of these plugins and they don't install -- they only crash my StreetDeck. I've also tried a few skins and NOTHING has worked -- I'm still stuck with the default one.
    • {11/05/2007} I finally found the "voice recognition" section of Street Deck, sadly when I tried to start it, it said something about 'training the microphone on the next screen', then it puked about some module/plugin not being loaded. *sigh* Is this supposed to work?
    • {11/05/2007} there's an extremely annoying bug whereby if you pause a track, then turn the car off (i.e. suspend SD), when you return and power up again, the playlist is empty and the nowplaying is empty. in other words, you cannot just un-pause the track you previously paused! you have to go back to view queue and choose a track and do all that again. what's even worse, is you don't know WTF you were in the list.
    • {11/05/2007} when re-indexing, click silver details bubble on top, it goes to a detail page that shows you more information, yet the silver bubble thing is still showing too, and worse, it overlaps the text of the detail page. the silver bubble should go away.
    • {11/05/2007} It's silly that I can't use the audio visualizers in "non-test" mode! Every stereo that you can buy now has some kind of visualizer. ...So, it's okay that I have to look at the screen to navigate menus, and I can also look at the GPS/maps/etc, but having a visualizer play is somehow less safe.
    • {11/05/2007} There needs to be a FF (and RW) buttons in addition to the slider. When you're listening to a long track (like a DJ set which may be an hour or two), the granularity of the slider is not fine enough. you touch it and it jumps like 15 minutes or more! I just want to FF (and HEAR the track at the same time) like if it were a CD player, so I can start playing again when I audibly hear the FF track changing to a new song.
    • {11/05/2007} using your tool "SDMapCache", I painstakingly downloaded the tiles (16 & 15 zoom) for my area. Now when I drive over 40+ mph, the stupid tiles pop in like they want to work, then they pop out again because apparently I'm moving too fast for this G4 to keep up or something and they haven't completed loading (even though they look like they have to me!) That is so lame. I can't think of any reason the tiles should ever NOT load, even if i changed direction or something, those tiles are still valid!
    • {11/05/2007} The clock/date keep needing to be reset. It's starting to really become annoying. Just today I had to set it manually TWICE (on the way to work, then again when i got in the car after work). I've owned maybe 20+ Windows computers in my life, and I've NEVER had a single one forget the date/time like this.
    • {11/05/2007} There needs to be a button or gesture to blank the screen. This thing is just to brite at night, and as mentioned in another bullet, the night mode slider does not allow you to make the screen dim enough. The blank screen mode should honor gestures (so i can switch tracks FW/RW, etc) but NOT go out of 'blank screen' mode until I use some gesture to return to normal mode again.

    http://daevid.com/gfx/tC
    Infill G4. StreetDeck.
    Installed 09/17/07

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    • {11/05/2007} I'm not sure who maintains the list on the wiki (which I can't find a link to at the moment), but I've tried several of these plugins and they don't install -- they only crash my StreetDeck. I've also tried a few skins and NOTHING has worked -- I'm still stuck with the default one.
    The wiki - as with any wiki - is user maintained. THe users themselves are the ones that upload and maintain those links. This is not a bug and as such will not be treated as a bug.
    • {11/05/2007} I finally found the "voice recognition" section of Street Deck, sadly when I tried to start it, it said something about 'training the microphone on the next screen', then it puked about some module/plugin not being loaded. *sigh* Is this supposed to work?
    If you feel this is a bug, please report it appropriately in the bug reporting forums.

    • {11/05/2007} there's an extremely annoying bug whereby if you pause a track, then turn the car off (i.e. suspend SD), when you return and power up again, the playlist is empty and the nowplaying is empty. in other words, you cannot just un-pause the track you previously paused! you have to go back to view queue and choose a track and do all that again. what's even worse, is you don't know WTF you were in the list.
    If you feel it's a bug, please report it in the bug reporting forum appropriately. Otherwise, we cannot assume it's a bug with the little information you have provided here.
    • {11/05/2007} when re-indexing, click silver details bubble on top, it goes to a detail page that shows you more information, yet the silver bubble thing is still showing too, and worse, it overlaps the text of the detail page. the silver bubble should go away.
    This is a feature request.
    • {11/05/2007} It's completely assinine that I can't use the audio visualizers in "non-test" mode!! WTF!? Every stereo that you can buy now has some kind of visualizer. This is so stupid. ...So, it's okay that I have to look at the screen to navigate menus, and I can also look at the GPS/maps/etc, but having a visualizer play is somehow less safe. This is f'n retarded logic.
    I'm sorry, but treating the staff with this kind of an attitude will not net you any results.
    • {11/05/2007} There needs to be a FF (and RW) buttons in addition to the slider. When you're listening to a long track (like a DJ set which may be an hour or two), the granularity of the slider is not fine enough. you touch it and it jumps like 15 minutes or more! I just want to FF (and HEAR the track at the same time) like if it were a CD player, so I can start playing again when I audibly hear the FF track changing to a new song.
    This is a feature request.
    • {11/05/2007} using your tool "SDMapCache", I painstakingly downloaded the tiles (16 & 15 zoom) for my area. Now when I drive over 40+ mph, the stupid tiles pop in like they want to work, then they pop out again because apparently I'm moving too fast for this G4 to keep up or something and they haven't completed loading (even though they look like they have to me!) That is so lame. I can't think of any reason the tiles should ever NOT load, even if i changed direction or something, those tiles are still valid!
    I'm sorry, which tool is this? Are you talking about the digital mod that some StreetDeck users implemented? If so, I would urge you to realize that DigitalMods are NOT StreetDeck developed, they are user developed and as such, StreetDeck does not support them. If you have an issue with them, I would recomend approacing the DigitalMod developer.

    If you have downloaded the tials via a wireless connection while moving and you believe this is a bug, then please report it as such.
    • {11/05/2007} The clock/date keep needing to be reset. It's starting to really become annoying. Just today I had to set it manually TWICE (on the way to work, then again when i got in the car after work). I've owned maybe 20+ Windows computers in my life, and I've NEVER had a single one forget the date/time like this.
    This is probably because StreetDeck its self is resetting. There is a thread around here that discusses this and how to avoid it.
    • {11/05/2007} There needs to be a button or gesture to blank the screen. This thing is just to brite at night, and as mentioned in another bullet, the night mode slider does not allow you to make the screen dim enough. The blank screen mode should honor gestures (so i can switch tracks FW/RW, etc) but NOT go out of 'blank screen' mode until I use some gesture to return to normal mode again.
    This is a feature request.
    Jan Bennett
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    Please post on the forums! Chances are, someone else has or will have the same questions as you!

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    Quote Originally Posted by RedGTiVR6;1138556[/LIST
    I'm sorry, which tool is this? Are you talking about the digital mod that some StreetDeck users implemented? If so, I would urge you to realize that DigitalMods are NOT StreetDeck developed, they are user developed and as such, StreetDeck does not support them. If you have an issue with them, I would recomend approacing the DigitalMod developer.

    If you have downloaded the tials via a wireless connection while moving and you believe this is a bug, then please report it as such.
    It's a simple tool that "Marc" created for pre-downloading tiles. You give it a lat/long, and it downloads up to 30 tiles in all directions. Then you copy these tiles into the SD directory as appropriate and for the corresponding zoom level (16 & 15)
    http://www.mp3car.com/vbulletin/digi...e-cache-2.html
    Download it from: http://www.vulfson.com/SDMapCache.exe
    But I digress... How the tiles get onto my G4 is irrelevant.

    The BUG is that as I'm driving and have "hybrid" mode on, the tiles appear then dissapear because apparently 40+ mph is too fast for the screen update to keep up or something, so the Navigation module gets confused. The end result is a tile comes in (visually all the way), then for some unknown reason, it blanks out again and I just see the regular vector road lines again and no tile. But if I drive slow enough, then the tile loads and sticks.

    Additionally, I've tried to zoom out, so the screen doesn't have to update so much (as in, while i move at 40+mph, the screen is moving a tiny amount), but the issue still arises.

    http://daevid.com/gfx/tC
    Infill G4. StreetDeck.
    Installed 09/17/07

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    Quote Originally Posted by RedGTiVR6 View Post
    I'm sorry, but treating the staff with this kind of an attitude will not net you any results.
    I apologize for my harsh sounding note. But it is extremely frustrating when I'm trying to abide by "the rules" and load up SD in normal mode (mostly to avoid that irritating nag screen EVERY TIME it starts or comes back from standby). I figured, okay, well, I can understand (even if I disagree with) the idea that it's unsafe to play a DVD/video or even look at pictures while driving. So I tried to do the right thing, only to find out that something as benign as a visualizer -- which doesn't do anything but show random colors or a frequency bar graph, nothing that any other stereo does these days -- wouldn't even display. YET, the hypocracy of the GPS screen, something that you almost ALWAYS have to look at for roads, turns, distances, etc, *is* perfectly legitimate. Combine that with the numerous other annoyances I come across daily with SD and the lack of frequent updates, and it builds up and I start to regret my purchase then I go from "Excited Happy" Customer to "I just spent $2000 to be a beta tester" customer. It really does make me wonder if this purchase was pre-mature and this field is just not ready for consumers yet. Or maybe it's just this front-end, I don't know, I've not tried any others. Or maybe I expect too much for this much money...

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