this is ridiculous

**HiJackZX1** · 05-14-2008, 07:46 AM

Originally Posted by danielkh

Apples to Apples comparison. SD against CF. Both are demo versions, neither has navigation, and on startup, both are playing music, SD has visualization background running. Both installed at the same time on the same computer, a Dell XPS M170.

Startup:
Streetdeck: 3 seconds. Playing music faster than I can get to the "cancel" button.

(I found that if you started with an older version and went through upgrades, your startups drag and then SD fails. If you are on a fresh windows load and go directly to newest version, 3-5 seconds is pretty standard, even in the car with navigation)

Centrafuse: 6 seconds, stopped counting at the "try" screen, also has 2 annoying warning screens before it's "ready".

Features:
Streetdeck has, Centrafuse doesn't: Gesture control, satellite imagery navigation, Internet radio (yahoo jukebox), visualization background, OBDII (CF requires add-on), added navigation voices.

Centrafuse has, Streetdeck doesn't: Embedded Browser, Radio (requires 3rd party hardware and Streetdeck has with add-on), Phone (using 3rd party software) with limitted phone support.

"Offline" Features:
Streetdeck: Developmental tools, Voice command editing, low performance mode, debug, media path editing tools
Centrafuse: Uninstall Centrafuse

Official Addons:
Streetdeck: Google POI, GPS gas, Weather, Yahoo news feed, Virtual Earth cache builder, Destinator mapping, Clock, Weather in metric, HQCT Media manager, GPS clock sync, Movie times, Calender
Centrafuse: Weather, Mappoint, E-mail, OBDII (stock with SD), TV, then for 3rd party, filesync, calculator, volume adjust, Calender, Iguidance

Where are all these features CF is supposed to have over SD? And that fantastic volume control that someone mentioned they were so happy with? Add-on....written by someone else and is not part of the CF pricetag.

I personally find the screens for CF (stock) are too busy and not asthetically pleasing in any way, shape or form. SD screens are well managed, pleasant, and easy to control. In the pictures below, the SD screen background is moving.

Now if anyone can take the above information, and explain the extra $100 for CF, you're a better saleman than I. And yes, this is the exact version of CF I tested before.

Your using an out dated version, try CF 2.0 and compare it to SD 2.0.... oops there is no SD 2.0

**danielkh** · 05-14-2008, 07:54 AM

Originally Posted by HiJackZX1

Your using an out dated version, try CF 2.0 and compare it to SD 2.0.... oops there is no SD 2.0

Centrafuse RC1 (I have no desire to check RC2) came in with the same times boot to play. As for the rest, I no longer give a crap.

SD 1 looks better than RC1, works better than RC1, and is more stable that I found RC1 to be. Oh, how can that be? No one has a stable SD, do they? BZZZZZ.......wrong. People that like to MESS with it and not know how to fix it....they have unstable SD.

Centrafuse RC1 doesn't have a single feature that I don't have. Except for 1. It doesn't turn people into Streetdeck Nazi's invading everyone elses threads and thinking they are doing to world a favor by "Spreading the Centrafuse word". Maybe we should just call it Centrakrieging. Blitzfusing?

Don't think I was fair with the analogy? Once you load RC1, Streetdeck isn't allowed to run again. How's that for invade and conquer!

At least with Streetdeck, it doesn't limit my other front end choices.

**HiJackZX1** · 05-14-2008, 08:01 AM

LOL, thats funny.... Maybe they should make a password system so only CF can go in CF forums and SD in SD forums....... Forums are made to have opinions, dont get bent all out of shape......

PS: CF is better, lol

**danielkh** · 05-14-2008, 08:05 AM

Originally Posted by HiJackZX1

LOL, thats funny.... Maybe they should make a password system so only CF can go in CF forums and SD in SD forums....... Forums are made to have opinions, dont get bent all out of shape......

PS: CF is better, lol

:byte me: lol

Like you said.....to each his own. I have never cared for CF's layout and SD has all the features I want and is stable. No reason to change.

"Viva la Streetdeck!" "Long live the resistaunce"

Ze Torshe

PS. Before everyone tells me how to change CF. I own a 350Z. I love the 350Z. It's like you saying "Here's a Mustang. If you don't like the looks, you can spend 100's of hours making and installing this "skin" to make the Mustang look like a 350Z! And it's only going to cost you 50% MORE than the 350Z. Oh, it won't run like the 350Z, the shifter has to go directly under your nose, and you have to have this Ford logo tattooed onto your chest. We'll talk about the missionary work that you will be required to do later. So....we have a deal?"

Well, I have a better idea.....

Now, with that said, give me the current advertised Azentek front end, and I'll whip out my checkbook right now. And no, you don't have proof it is Centrafuse. Oh man, that would be funny as hell........the Azentek front end turns out to be Streetdeck 2.0.

**danielkh** · 05-14-2008, 08:39 AM

Originally Posted by HiJackZX1

LOL, thats funny.... Maybe they should make a password system so only CF can go in CF forums and SD in SD forums....... Forums are made to have opinions, dont get bent all out of shape......

PS: CF is better, lol

"I like Centrafuse. It makes me happy and I feel good all day long" -- Opinion

"Centrafuse has gestures, voice control, every other feature of streetdeck, but also has great technical support and on weekends, it likes to be my girlfriend" -- Sales Pitch

Feel free to list opinions all you want. Run a sales pitch and expect to get called on it.

Edit: And yeah, picking posts that are weeks or months old so you can list centrafuse features and current revs would also come under "sales pitch".

**ViViper1** · 05-14-2008, 09:04 AM

Originally Posted by HiJackZX1

I think its so funny that people actually designed their systems around software..... I mean yea, you make sure the hardware works with whatever, but to design it around one software, especially a buggy one is crazy. CF has plus plus features compared to SD now with the RC 2.0, including gestures. If you dont like the UI, then change it duh!!!!!!!!!! I actually made sure that if CF was to flop (which it wont) I could easily move to RR.....

How do you design your hardware on software? what exactly do you get that works with sd but not anything else other than the 1 bluetooth dongle. Even though people have figured a way around this.....

LOL, thats funny.... Maybe they should make a password system so only CF can go in CF forums and SD in SD forums....... Forums are made to have opinions, dont get bent all out of shape......

PS: CF is better, lol

Forums are made for opinions, but make a new post, not drag one thats old and not even on the same topic.... This post was made for complaints about SD support or lack there of it. People were sidetracked and they were warned a few posts earlier I believe. I could be mixing it up with other ones. But yes everyone is entitled to their own opinion so go start a thread on the appropriate forums. We're here because we like SD. You like CF, so go there and say how much better it is instead of coming here, bumping old posts and not even talking about the post topic.

**mangus580** · 05-14-2008, 09:19 AM

Originally Posted by danielkh

SD 1 looks better than RC1, works better than RC1, and is more stable that I found RC1 to be. Oh, how can that be? No one has a stable SD, do they? BZZZZZ.......wrong. People that like to MESS with it and not know how to fix it....they have unstable SD.

Now there is a BS statement. SD never worked right on my install from day 1. DVD never worked, it crashed all the time. Reinstalled the OS 3 times to fix the Navigation error.

Quite frankly, I got sick of it. I have been running CF 1.47 for almost a month now, NOT A SINGLE ISSUE, and EVERYTHING works right 'out of the box'

**danielkh** · 05-14-2008, 09:24 AM

Originally Posted by mangus580

Now there is a BS statement. SD never worked right on my install from day 1. DVD never worked, it crashed all the time. Reinstalled the OS 3 times to fix the Navigation error.

Quite frankly, I got sick of it. I have been running CF 1.47 for almost a month now, NOT A SINGLE ISSUE, and EVERYTHING works right 'out of the box'

Key words here......"MY install". Call it BS if you want, but if everyone had the problems people list, Streetdeck would never have sold one copy.

And if it is such a BS statement, why on earth would I not only use Streetdeck, but continue to use it through these troubled times? Think I am somehow getting a kickback from MP3Car? Geez, the claim is mindless.

How did that BT license agreement popup on the first start of CF2 work for ya? How many times did you have to try and restart before CF actually worked?

**mangus580** · 05-14-2008, 09:33 AM

Originally Posted by danielkh

How did that BT license agreement popup on the first start of CF2 work for ya? How many times did you have to try and restart before CF actually worked?

As I stated, I am running 1.47

I would not even really consider running a RELEASE CANIDATE as a prime software... certainly not a RC1 version.

**ViViper1** · 05-14-2008, 10:30 AM

Originally Posted by mangus580

As I stated, I am running 1.47

I would not even really consider running a RELEASE CANIDATE as a prime software... certainly not a RC1 version.

You wouldn't run it because there are problems? It's not stable?

We're not comparing betas, they are betas for a reason. I run SD. I'm still running SD or plan to atleast in a week once I'm done redoing my installation. I haven't had enough problems to complain about it, if any at all. I've had it for a while now. It doesn't crash on me on my old setup unless I'm tweaking or god forbid those solar flares start flaring up again. DVD works fine for me. Not sure what your problem was. But I'm sure if you ever want to try SD again that the people here would be more than greatful to help you out =oD.