Thread: Where can I buy StreetDeck Software (Responses)

I find it blatantly obvious that mp3car and streetdeck are 'sleeping together'. There is just no way streetdeck can get so much coverage on this website without paying cash. I think both parties are attempting to capitalilze on this user base of enthusiasts they have created over the years. I think they have used the experience, knowledge, and ideas that came from anyone who has ever contributed to this board, and turned it into a commercial product, and now are selling it back to us. I think this should have been a community project and shared just like everything else.

I think this forum should be moved to a non-commercial server immediately. mp3car and streetdeck do not own our ideas, projects, experience, or knowledge. Imagine if this whole forum moved to another server. What would happen to their entire target market? We could write streetdux, a new open source linux streetdeck clone! Honestly though, this forum belongs to us, the readers and posters, and we are slowly but surely being SOLD OUT. Are we gonna stop it, probably not. Everything goes commercial eventually.

But honestly, who are they gonna sell to? They will spend a TON on marketing, packaging, product design, etc, but I seriously doubt they will ever turn any significant profits. The carpc industry is about as lucrative as returning shopping carts. The truth about carpcs is that if you want one, you're generally the type that wants to do it yourself. And generally, people who dont know how to put a computer together and install some software would get completely lost in a carpc, and very likely crash their vehicle. It's simply a DIY niche.

On the flip side, they're developing better software. that's wonderful. I'm sure we'll be able to take advantage of their ideas.

$ .02

(dont delete this thread please)

Originally Posted by Vinister

I find it blatantly obvious that mp3car and streetdeck are 'sleeping together'. There is just no way streetdeck can get so much coverage on this website without paying cash.

http://mp3car.com/contact-us.html

Kappa, mind my asking where in Birmingham you are located, you being a fellow Nissan family member and all; not to mention mp3car enthusiast. I thought I was alone in the state of Alabama for several years.

Originally Posted by Pokey

Sounds a little one sided to me.. why even have a forum if users can't freely talk...

There are plenty of areas in the forums in which you can talk freely. That is likely saying "seems a little one sided that I can carry a weapon around freely unless I go into an elementary school."

Originally Posted by defsquad

you will not be selling any version of streetdeck unless purchased with the hardware?

It is my understanding (which I don't claim means anything ) that they will eventually release a developer edition that is sans hardware.

Originally Posted by Vinister

I find it blatantly obvious that mp3car and streetdeck are 'sleeping together'.

I don't know what you mean by this exactly, but from what I understand, there is a group of application developers who either originated from mp3car.com or have been hired by mp3car.com to develop StreetDeck. I'm not sure what's so scandalous about that. That sort of thing happens all the time in all industries.

Originally Posted by Vinister

I think both parties are attempting to capitalilze on this user base of enthusiasts they have created over the years. I think they have used the experience, knowledge, and ideas that came from anyone who has ever contributed to this board, and turned it into a commercial product

And what is wrong with that? This is what happens with virtually all products and services. People go "hmm, look at this demand, look at this interest, I will create a product to fill this demand." Anyone can decide to take all the information here on the boards and create a solution, and they can decide to sell it or not.

Originally Posted by Vinister

I think this should have been a community project and shared just like everything else.

Why don't you start a community project and develop something that can be freely shared with the rest of the community? People love freeware, shareware, OSS, etc. There is always a demand and a desire for it by people. Other people prefer to pay money for something for a multitude of reasons. OpenOffice vs. Microsoft Office....

Originally Posted by Vinister

We could write streetdux, a new open source linux streetdeck clone!

Then do it? No one has ever said you couldn't. It would certainly be more productive then hee-hawing on here about how you feel like the world has mistreated you because you did not capitalize on a good idea and someone else did.

Originally Posted by Vinister

Honestly though, this forum belongs to us, the readers and posters, and we are slowly but surely being SOLD OUT

This is one of those statements that is based on emotion, rather than logic. You have yet to describe how you are being sold out. From everything I see, you can still run all of the free frontends you feel like. You can still run Destinator, iGuidance, whatever you want.... completely free of charge. Streetdeck hasn't changed anything in your world, other than brought another option that costs money. From what I hear from you and others, you don't even WANT streetdeck for whatever reasons (mappoint, hardware requirements, whatever). And from what I've read, StreetDeck is not looking to sell to the do-it-yourselfer. And they havent' imposed on any of the do-it-yourselvers either. They created a new area on the forums for those who are interested can come post, learn, contribute, etc.

Originally Posted by Vinister

The carpc industry is about as lucrative as returning shopping carts. The truth about carpcs is that if you want one, you're generally the type that wants to do it yourself. And generally, people who dont know how to put a computer together and install some software would get completely lost in a carpc, and very likely crash their vehicle. It's simply a DIY niche.

The market for home computers was the same way. "Why in the world would you want a computer at home? That's stupid." "Why in the world would you want a computer in the car? That's stupid." A recent poster made a very very good posting about the bell curve for user acceptance of a new technology or product. At the beginning are the early adopters, looking to get it first and burn the trail. The next are those who see the value and jump on the boat. The next are those who take on the technology because they are afraid of being left behind. Finally are the people who do not want to change but are forced to because it becomes standard.

Originally Posted by Vinister

On the flip side, they're developing better software. that's wonderful. I'm sure we'll be able to take advantage of their ideas.

As happens with any good product. Just look at China, that's all they do. Just look at Microsoft, that's all they do.

Originally Posted by amthar

As happens with any good product. Just look at China, that's all they do. Just look at Microsoft, that's all they do.

Lol, that is the truth.

Originally Posted by amthar

From what I hear from you and others, you don't even WANT streetdeck for whatever reasons (mappoint, hardware requirements, whatever).

GofCPU... feel free to move / delete etc but I have to reply to this.

No - I disagree with this comment - thats not what the issue is.. ( See this )

As it happerns I have had a chat with Damion S ( who I know but did not know until last week was involved with SD ) and pointed out some of the concerns of the community ... this did not include saying we do not want SD.... SD is a good product and one I welcome for Joe Bloggs to get in to this area...

I think the deletion of certain posts around this as well as comments from certain people such as 'yeah, I've seen it in action, its the dopest s**t ever yo. I'm going to buy 5 and recommend it to all my friends too.' ( and I **ed out that word as a mod ) also helped in adding an extra level of 'discontent' and 'miky taking'.

Terran

Originally Posted by ccsnet

GofCPU... feel free to move / delete etc but I have to reply to this.

No - I disagree with this comment - thats not what the issue is.. ( See this )

As it happerns I have had a chat with Damion S ( who I know but did not know until last week was involved with SD ) and pointed out some of the concerns of the community ... this did not include saying we do not want SD.... SD is a good product and one I welcome for Joe Bloggs to get in to this area...

I think the deletion of certain posts around this as well as comments from certain people such as 'yeah, I've seen it in action, its the dopest s**t ever yo. I'm going to buy 5 and recommend it to all my friends too.' ( and I **ed out that word as a mod ) also helped in adding an extra level of 'discontent' and 'miky taking'.

Terran

I dont know how else I can explain this, the software dev forum on mp3car will never close. I don't see why it would ever be in mp3car's interest to do such a thing. It wouldn't really be mp3car anymore and mp3car is different from StreetDeck.com despite the fact that our forums are hosted here. If anything, StreetDeck would open up a forum on StreetDeck.com before we would dilute any content on mp3car.com, but I don't see how mp3car users would benefit by not having the StreetDeck forums hosted on mp3car now or how they are currently hurt by having it here.

I can and will delete all posts that I personally find obscene or off topic in the StreetDeck sub forum on mp3car. Uninformed criticisms and complaints of StreetDeck are not something that I think belong in the StreetDeck sub forum, feel free to post your honest critical reviews and they will not be deleted though.

I agree, StreetDeck is the dopest **** ever yo, that uk godofcpu sure is well informed. Not quite sure why you have a problem with anyone saying that, particularly on an internet forum that has a fair amount of bouncing boob avatars among others sure to offend some. Lighten up, this is an internet forum, not a courtroom. If you want some well thought out serious commercial propaganda StreetDeck.com is the place for you. Here on the mp3car forums, things tend to open and slightly humourous.

Originally Posted by god_of_cpu

I agree, StreetDeck is the dopest **** ever yo, that uk godofcpu sure is well informed.

So by implication you are saying it wasn't you who created the god_of_cpu account over on digital-car.co.uk and posted the above statement?


In that case you won't mind providing James_Warner (cloudy) your ip addresses for him to compare.