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    no just..

    No, just trying to fire somebody up enuff to build a solid GPS app for linux and we can get the party started.

    On windoze, I see tonnage of GPS apps, so why do it again, will anyone notice? out of the simulacra of gps apps on windows, who will even find it?

    BUT if you would do linux, then scores of netizens would come out of the woodwork to use it and adopt it on that platform, enuf to make it worth it by far, esp. since GPS is such a hole on *nix (even mac).

    This is why I get frustrated.

    B/C linux, yes is a small % share. And yes, linux types are not your high end bulk buyers. But there is real value in attracting the power linux user to tinker with your app:

    1. the OSS innovation cycle should work extremely well with GIS/GPS type apps (if you're dozer-only then forget the OSS cycle),

    2. porting to mac from nix is not so bad (and easy when the OSS world does it for you), while porting to small embedded/linux devices yeh ...

    3. encourages integration with other apps (including web-apps) as users knit it into more possibilities

    So, own the copyright + url-domain + application-name, drive the OSS cycle, port to mac, and let a thousand flowers bloom ... whether it makes it to windozer or not.


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    windoze... I'z is so smrt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rocken View Post
    No, just trying to fire somebody up enuff to build a solid GPS app for linux and we can get the party started.

    On windoze, I see tonnage of GPS apps, so why do it again, will anyone notice? out of the simulacra of gps apps on windows, who will even find it?

    BUT if you would do linux, then scores of netizens would come out of the woodwork to use it and adopt it on that platform, enuf to make it worth it by far, esp. since GPS is such a hole on *nix (even mac).

    This is why I get frustrated.

    B/C linux, yes is a small % share. And yes, linux types are not your high end bulk buyers. But there is real value in attracting the power linux user to tinker with your app:

    1. the OSS innovation cycle should work extremely well with GIS/GPS type apps (if you're dozer-only then forget the OSS cycle),

    2. porting to mac from nix is not so bad (and easy when the OSS world does it for you), while porting to small embedded/linux devices yeh ...

    3. encourages integration with other apps (including web-apps) as users knit it into more possibilities

    So, own the copyright + url-domain + application-name, drive the OSS cycle, port to mac, and let a thousand flowers bloom ... whether it makes it to windozer or not.

    I seriously doubt it was the intentions of SD to create a "nitche" system that was exciting to err.... 5 users just because it ran on a Unix/Linux box. I also don't think it was their intentions to create an open source solution that people could bastardize... I believe the point your missing is the goal was creating the best solution with the most features and make some money off of it (no chance with Linux). If you are that anti-windows, you aren't going to get very far in this world... Whether Linux users want to face it or not, PC's running Windows still dominate (and probably always will) the market. Bring the products to the masses as that is how money is made.

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    You're better off that it doesn't work on Linux, it's saves you from spending $200 of software that works right half the time. Kinda reminds me of a Microsoft product.

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    Ok some more ...

    msreyes windoze... I'z is so smrt.
    Well it works both ways bro, "msreyes" thats real smrt too.

    ryguy Honestly if you knew anything about windows or linux you'd know that windows is the perfect platform for streetdeck. Period.
    That is a matter of opinion and I'm sure users don't go out and study up on windows vs. linux, they just want a GPS app on their box, unless you're just selling to developers?

    gosmondson The work being done with Wine + StreetDeck is progressing well, why not help with this if you dont like the current solution?
    I refuse this port-to-wine crap, either its good for linux or not, also I can't contribute to source code going the wine route.

    Also, why should I port-to-wine when it costs $200 and sux for linux?

    2k1Toaster And from a logical point of view, why would you code something to be commercially available for only like 5% of the users which includes OSX and various Linux distros? You want money to rebuild some of the developement and advertising costs, as well as profit! So the obvious choice is windows. If windows was really that bad, then why do most people in the world use it?!
    I dig that toaster, but the 5% is a real bad guess :/

    Think about it: how many GPS apps are there that are on windows now, like 30+ (and if you include the proprietary devices like pioneer, sony, tomtom, etc its upwards of 50-100).

    How many on mac? 1-4.
    How many on linux? 1-2.

    Now is streetdeck going to be better than those cats by doing their own development and working out deals with map providers on their own and staying competitive with a $200 price ONLY for windows? No chance.

    But if they did it on linux, and embraced OSS methods, then the party starts. At least they can be unique and offer something new.

    Their money would be made in the rise in user accounts on their website, the traffic on the site (ad-sense), and long term try to work out a licensing deal with a hardware company or an auto company for integration or something along those lines.

    Sure there is some short term money with the current streetdeck, I bet, but I'd also bet it goes right out the door to some patent dispute and licensing content from navtec.

    Just don't do shrink wrap GPS dozer-only for $200.

    Lets do fully interactive GIS/GPS and let the people drive the code.

    -Word-

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    Sticking to my gunz

    I'll say it again, roll it over to LINUX where you will be the only game in town.

    Or just keep it on windows and compete with every CE company on the planet.


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    Quote Originally Posted by rocken View Post
    I'll say it again, roll it over to LINUX where you will be the only game in town.

    Or just keep it on windows and compete with every CE company on the planet.

    Linux would be kinda cool, but as for competing with every CE company, I think SD already has that covered... And one of the only "real" games in town regardless of the OS.

    Linux in my experience has had limited drivers, poor graphics support, etc... Their gaming is just now starting to port Windows (but in no way comparable to what the pc has already) and it's all about the graphical interface when it comes to car computing...

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