View Poll Results: How did you get and use Streetdeck?

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  • I Paid, Own and Use Streetdeck.

    78 69.64%
  • I work for streetdeck and got a copy for free

    1 0.89%
  • I Paid and Own a copy but dont use it anymore.

    10 8.93%
  • I Paid, Own and use streetdeck lite.

    13 11.61%
  • I am a developer and use the Developer edition

    1 0.89%
  • I am a beta tester

    7 6.25%
  • I got a copy for free for being a moderator

    2 1.79%
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Thread: How many people Own and use Streetdeck

  1. #71
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caelric View Post
    Just because you are happy with it does not mean someone else can't have legitimate complaints.
    This is true. However...

    Quote Originally Posted by Caelric View Post
    Some of the bugs (mapping, specifically) are not able to be discovered until after purchase. So how does your theorry of "don't like it, don't buy it" work there?
    Right here...

    Quote Originally Posted by god_of_cpu View Post
    If you are unhappy with StreetDeck, you have every oppurtunity to know this before you purchase, theres no reason to base your decision to buy it solely on the opinion of another person when knowing whether or not it works for you is just a download away.
    Couldn't agree more!!

    Quote Originally Posted by DarquePervert View Post
    Don't let the rantings of a couple of dissatisfied, bitter rabble-rousers that have nothing better to do than rip on a relatively new piece of software that caters to a relatively new niche market influence your decision.
    Well put!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TruckinMP3 View Post
    The broad statement about free front ends may not reflect the actual support needs.... For instance I use WinAmp, I am only interested in playing music. For my intended use a free front end is quite reasonable.
    If you were referring to my statement concerning the likelihood of additional problems with free front ends, then I see your point...as you add complexity there is greater opportunity for software conflicts. I forget that not everyone uses their computer for nav sometimes... :-)

    Quote Originally Posted by XAAMOTTOMAAX View Post
    To touch on that, a lot of the banter about disclosing sales data and whatever else went into the thread went in one ear and out the other for me. All I got from the thread was that there were Nav issues and one of the customers did not feel like he received the support he was entitled to. I did not notice any half truths or wild/unfounded accusations. While it might not apply to everyone else, paying $200 for a product that does not function properly for whatever reason is a very real experience. There is no wool over my eyes.
    Gotcha. I understand (and largely agree with) your position after reading this and your previous post. I misspoke...the demand for sales data was what I was erroneously referring to as "accusations". Sloppy writing on my part.

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    Quote Originally Posted by parksgm View Post
    If you were referring to my statement concerning the likelihood of additional problems with free front ends, then I see your point...as you add complexity there is greater opportunity for software conflicts. I forget that not everyone uses their computer for nav sometimes... :-)
    Yes, and no worries. I do not know how likely I am to buy SD, but I see no reason to bash it. The target user audience does not include me.
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    This thread has been extremely insightful for me. At the very least, it has proven to me how the dedicated reps/developers for SD are in supporting their software. To have 5 pages of this thread within the span of about a month with so many replies, sometimes redundant as they are (by necessity to address concerns), from SD reps amazes me. I am impressed.

    I believe some of the complaints are legit, and I don't think anybody is saying anything wrong about that. Just when those complaints turn to accusations (like something about releasing a fix in 2020?) is when it can hurt personally and professionally. As a software developer, I've had to face this as well. It's not constructive at all. Simply state the problems/issues and letting the developers fix them. I've taken a look at SD's patch releases. There's so many! And so many fixes/adjustments/enhancements in each of those releases! If that doesn't prove that the developers @ SD are doing their job, I don't know what does.

    I personally don't own SD or a carPC yet. I am seriously considering the G4 (if anybody wants to see the ipod integration with the G4, look at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPisZhDdm-0 ). I also realized some of the limitations of SD through this thread.

    Overall, this thread has shed light to the software in general. My main concern will be limitations (video playback while moving, bluetooth integration). I know those topics were probably beaten to death already. Just don't feel like reading another 10 pages of a thread after reading 5 pages of this one just yet. But the most positive info is that SD has been so dedicated in addressing consumer issues both through this forum and through the frequent and easily available patch updates.

    Which brings me to some questions:
    If a G4 is connected to the internet, can the G4 be set up to update automatically, without having to manually download it, replacing files in various directories, etc?
    RE: Live Traffic - (just as in idea, probably addressed internally, not publicly, I think) As live traffic is not available for local streets (as far as I'm aware of), would it be hard to mimic sigalert's methodology in calculating fastest routes? From my experience, sigalert's technology seems as rudimentary as they come. I may be mistaken. Then again, I suppose it can be another story when incorporating that methodology with the already existing route calculating methodology. Is that the current issue?

    BTW, looks like SD really is working on live traffic integration. Just looked @ youtube. They have some vids up. Again, impressed with your proactive approaches and efforts to bring that awareness to the public.

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    Quote Originally Posted by minwoo832 View Post
    Which brings me to some questions:
    If a G4 is connected to the internet, can the G4 be set up to update automatically, without having to manually download it, replacing files in various directories, etc?
    StreetDeck is working on this feature right now. It is not currently implemented on the new release.

    The update process is incredibly simple. Just run the update. Double click on the icon or drag it over the StreetDeck application window and it will install the update. Easy as that.
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    Not that it matters much but I've decided that a front end software is pretty pointless and I'm just going to roll with straight WXP. This is just MHO of course but paying $200 for a buggy product just isn't my cup of tea. I downloaded the demo and the thing crashed on me within 5 minutes. Granted it's probably a hardware issue but just like they say, if you aren't running an Infill, the software is not optimized for your hardware.

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    good luck with that!
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    Quote Originally Posted by XAAMOTTOMAAX View Post
    Not that it matters much but I've decided that a front end software is pretty pointless and I'm just going to roll with straight WXP. This is just MHO of course but paying $200 for a buggy product just isn't my cup of tea. I downloaded the demo and the thing crashed on me within 5 minutes. Granted it's probably a hardware issue but just like they say, if you aren't running an Infill, the software is not optimized for your hardware.
    OK, I am game.... what hardware are you running?
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    I ran a CarPC for 2 years without a Front End....but then again, all I was doing was music playback. I have recently started using StreetDeck and now I'm able to fully realize the full potential of a CarPC. I've realized that previously, I spent all that time and money just to get the same features as a normal head unit...seems like such a waste now that I look back on it.

    A front end allows you to utilize your CarPC in more depth and get more value for your money and time invested.

    All of the features in StreetDeck are put there to make using a CarPC easier to use while driving. You cannot get that without a front end, not safely.

    Everyone complains about how buggy the software is, but there sure aren't a whole lot of bug reports in the bug reporting forum.

    What I see is more people complaining about how they want to see StreetDeck work this way or another, not that it's buggy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RedGTiVR6 View Post
    I ran a CarPC for 2 years without a Front End....but then again, all I was doing was music playback. I have recently started using StreetDeck and now I'm able to fully realize the full potential of a CarPC. I've realized that previously, I spent all that time and money just to get the same features as a normal head unit...seems like such a waste now that I look back on it.

    A front end allows you to utilize your CarPC in more depth and get more value for your money and time invested.

    All of the features in StreetDeck are put there to make using a CarPC easier to use while driving. You cannot get that without a front end, not safely.

    Everyone complains about how buggy the software is, but there sure aren't a whole lot of bug reports in the bug reporting forum.

    What I see is more people complaining about how they want to see StreetDeck work this way or another, not that it's buggy.

    Perception is a funny thing.

    I happen to be a professional in IT. Specifically Software Quality Assurance.

    To know if it is in fact a bug (defect), you would need to know the intended design and the assumptions/constraints.

    Additionally the list of supported hardware is published for a reason, along with compatible OS/drivers.

    If you try to run software out of these parameters you have no business at all making a claim of "buggy" code.

    The issue could easily be caused by the hardware/OS and driver choices you made (or did not consider).
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