yeah, I prototype on the stamp before moving to pic. Like Ricky327 I keep adding onto my startup/shutdown controller so it is not complete either. Mine works by turning the computer on when a button is pressed and turns off either when the button is pressed again or the ACC goes low and stays low for a specified amount of time. I also have a switch so I can have it startup from ACC line or the pushbutton switch. I am using MBasic to code mine which is 99% compatible with the BS2 language. I will post what I have if I ever get around to finishing it. But, by all means share what you have. I am sure someone will find it usefull or inspiring.