Quote: Originally Posted by HybridMike
the alpine setup you speak about cost you how much?...everything they sell is piece item so i know a system like that was at least 5000$
as far as carputers being supierior....i think they can be in some respects far superior...or we all wouldnt be doing it...however, getting to that point may take some effort...which is what we all are doing.
can your alpine send an email?
can your alpine play ogg, flac, asf, mov, or avi's
can your alpine store upwards of 10,000 songs
can your alpine rip cd's
can your alpine make cd's
can your alpine rip dvd's
can your alpine make dvd's
can your alpine play games
does your alpine have a wireless connection to the net
i could go on and on...but you get the point
In my opinion the car computer is far supierior, however it is still in its infancy and will be awhile before it has an the embedded feel that your alpine has...but you wouldnt have posted or even found mp3car.com if you didnt somewhat doubt the superiority of your alpine.
I am not down on carputers in the least, If I had to choose between an alpine OR a carputer, I know that I would pick the carputer with out a doubt!
My end up system devoloped after many hours of attempting to get the pc to function as my only system...it all started when i tried to run dvd's on my pc... admitedly this was back when my pII 300 was state of the art...& I can't tell you how many hours I screwed with it, how many differnt periferals I bought & tried...how many diferent players I downloaded & installed,I was determined to get this thing to work the way I wanted to, I tried long & hard, & I did have some sucess in many areas of my system, but as far as dvd playing went, I cheated & got a dvd head unit & merged it.
from that point on my next system was a merge between the two, & I like it so much, but it also bothers me that it is two different systems none the less. I guess my absolute dream system would be a carputer running on an operating system kinda like linux or some of those other operating systems that I personaly know nothing about, & would be built to run & feel as good as my alpine system,be instant, always there, rock solid reliable & efortless but still be able to do all of the things a pc does, such as unlimited storage potential, full web browsing, & of course the versitility of being able to add function as wild as your imagination can take you.
My first carputer install was back when I was running windows 3.11& dos, back when EVERYTHING had to be configured manually, & conflicts were huge, talk about spending hours there...I remember "upgrading" to a p100 & win95, I remember my fascination when lcd technology finally became an option, I used a small crt tube in my first install. I collected laptop lcd's, bought controllers, I knew allen from earthlcd on a first name basis for a while,this was james bond like stuff to me, & I couldn't get enough of it, but in the end I guess I kinda sold out, partialy because I realized that in the end when I looked at the time & effort & money spent, I could have gotten better results with a hybrid system, & I can now install a complete system in like 20 hours or so, vs spending 80 hours or more for a lesser final result.
Todays computer set ups are different in that they are now monster powerful & with xp,usb & stuff, they almost configure themselves. The support of fourums such as this, along with the easiness of just buying a 7" monitor, man I would have killed for something like that back then.I wanted to know if anybody here has built a modern carputer system to the extreme that it basically works flawlessly in all aspects, or rather good enough to leave nothing desired, I admit that I have been defeated in my persuit of that goal, & sold out to just building a hybrid & have been doing so ever since.
I guess I also wanted to point out from experience that sometimes a hybrid system is easier & less expensive in the long run, especially for the average guy who may not have the time or knowledge to build a full blown pc install.
there is nothing wrong with adding an older slow pc to a decent stereo system, & just depending on it for say mp3's, or web browsing, or mapping, but not having the pc be "mission critical" to the point that a problem there causes all casual entertainment to come to a halt.
I do salute everyone here for there ambition & obsession that it takes to even pursue a pc install, belive me I'm not knocking it one bit....