wooh there guys, I said it before & I'll say it again, I AM NOT KNOCKING THE PC IN THE CAR THING, far from that.I only point out my years worth of experience to convey the fact that even though it says "newbie" under my user name, I have been screwing with this stuff since way back when, I certainly don't mention this to impress anybody here...(I'll save that for my pictures

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My main thinking in this post is boiled down to two things really:
#1) since now adays there is so much support in this area ,(the car pc install), I was just curious if anybody has gotten to the point that they belive there system works "as good as" a regular audio video install...wow... no insults there...
Maybe I did elaberate on MY opinion & how & why I choose to go with a hybrid system, but I certainly don't think I meant to insult or put anything/one down
#2) I just wanted to point out to whoever it may benefit that it IS possible to have a pc in there car without having to spend the next few years of there spare time attempting to achieve this, especially those that have limited abilitys, time & resources. you must admit that it would be EASIER to just install a basic system for audio/video & then just SUPPLIMENT that with a pc, best of both worlds... why is it so bad to get this point across? there are many viewers of these fourums that haven't even started a system yet, why is it bad for them to realize that they have options...
As far as the guy who says that "...any pc navigation is far superior to stand alone systems", I only have one thing to say, you obviously haven't had the oportunity to use many of either one, or you'd easily realize that there is no comparison.
I also did mention that "...If money wasn't the issue" & that obviously is hypathetical, because unless donald trump or bill gates is browsing these forums, money is ALWAYS an issue. I too started my in car pc installs because of the obvious, that the end results could cost much less & be more functional. I actually used to frown on those $2,000 head units that needed a seperate $1,500 navigation & all the rest that goes with it. I to used to think that was crazy, I could do a pc system for much less....where you guys are now is where I've been.
has anybody ever heard the praise "time is money", for those of you who insist that the money is such a big deal I have one question, "If you spent all of the effort that you spent on installing your pc on working for money, do you think you could have made enough to buy a complete system?" I do realize that a lot of you are young & maybe still in school, but I'm sure there are more than a few of you that could earn more than your saving... just a little something to think about...& please don't slam me with the "satisaction of doing it myself" stuff,I do realize that end of it & also feel that satisfaction...
I don't have such an elaberate system in my car because I have ton's of cash, but rather because it is such a high priority for me that I'd rather have a $7,000 car with a $12,000 system than say some awsome $20,000 car stock. That's just me...
my last car was a $2,700 car with a $8,000 system, not said to impress, just to point out where my prioritys lie...
i'm sure quite a few of you start with a car that is worth more than my whole car & system, it's all relative dude, the guy who is atempting to install a system in his 02 whatchamacallit & complaining about the price of an alpine system is the same guy who could have bought a 99 whatchamacallit & had enough change for a complete alpine system & a pc to boot......food for thought.....
P.S. who is zim?